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2025 NFL Draft • Page 87

Discussion in 'Sports Forum' started by JoshIsMediocre, Aug 21, 2024.

  1. JoshIsMediocre

    chorus's #1 oklahoma city comets fan Moderator

    This new version looks sick
     
  2. whitenblue88

    The rivalry is back on

    Yeah I really like the new layout vs the old PDF version
     
  3. whitenblue88

    The rivalry is back on

    Immediate reactions:
    - Restrepo at WR25/ 5-6 round grade is the lowest I’ve seen him; good validation that I’ve had him as a day 3 guy in my head vs the 2nd rounder he’s been going in our mocks
    - Shough as QB4/ 2 round grade is still wild to me; I still don’t see it at all
    - Jordan James and Trevor Etienne with 3rd round grades (and above Skattebo) is :eyes:
    - the safety order is a little surprising too — Billy Bowman and Jonas Sanker are names I’m not very familiar with that have R3 grades and didn’t go in our mocks
    - interesting if teams truly see Banks as a OG, I still think he gets drafted to stick at OT
     
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  4. JRShoenberger

    Trusted

    There’s a former scout-turned-reporter here in Pittsburgh who is IN LOVE with Shough. So I could see some team loving him. It only takes one team.
     
  5. JoshIsMediocre

    chorus's #1 oklahoma city comets fan Moderator

    we love our priors being confirmed
     
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  6. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

    Added the current RP data to his historic stuff:

    - Travis Hunter is his best tracked prospect, no need to bring him up again lol

    Routes:

    - Jaylin Noel is his 8th highest rated
    - Matthew Golden and Luther Burden are top 20.
    - Jayden Higgins is 48/51, Tre Harris is 44/51. Everyone else around him has busted out pretty hard or is Rashee Rice who is king of manufactured targets on simple routes. Next best guys there are Keon Coleman and George Pickens but they're a decent amount above them too.

    Situation (Man/Zone/Press/Double):

    - Elic Aymanor grades 44/51 in zone, Tre Harris 42nd
    - Higgins is 47th in press which is by far the worst when you factor in frequency.
    - When factoring in rate, Ayomanor is 2nd best in class at beating double coverage. Golden is worth mentioning too but he didn't face it as much. Higgins has a high rate of beating double coverage but an abysmally low rate of coverage faced to the point where I find it EXTREMELY concerning. Only guys who faced it less often were Polk, Skyy Moore, and Metchie.

    Overall:

    - Jaylin Noel is the top guy after Hunter, finishing in 7th overall.
    - Matthew Golden is 12th, right next to Ladd McConkey which is a good analytical comparison for him
    - Tet and Elic finish out the top 20.
    - Higgins is 47/51, Tre Haris is 42nd.
     
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  7. Donnie Ruth

    Prestigious Supporter

    Watching Tre Harris today and there is one particular rookie WR I LOVED last year who he def reminds me of (just a lesser version). However, one quick search and it appears everyone’s made the BTJ comp lol
     
  8. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

    Not remotely close athleticism. BTJs route running "limitations" were more scheme related than ability. I've seen normal human DK Metcalf and I think that fits
     
  9. Donnie Ruth

    Prestigious Supporter

    Yeah I made sure I wrote lesser version lol. I always believed BTJ’s route running was just a scheme related situation. Not remotely sure on Harris and if there’s room to grow/develop or he’ll just be like … Alec Pierce
     
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  10. JoshIsMediocre

    chorus's #1 oklahoma city comets fan Moderator

     
  11. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    McShay 3.0 (pasting in here bc the link is paywalled):
    1. Titans: Cam Ward - QB
    2. Browns: Travis Hunter - CB/WR
    3. Giants: Abdul Carter - Edge
    4. Patriots: Will Campbell - OT
    5. Jaguars: Jalon Walker - Edge
    6. Raiders: Ashton Jeanty - RB
    7. Jets - Armand Membou - OT
    8. Panthers: Mason Graham - DT
    9. Saints: Jaxson Dart - QB
    10. Bears: Tyler Warren - TE
    11. Niners: Will Johnson - CB
    12. Cowboys: Tetairoa McMillan - WR
    13. Miami: Shemar Stewart - Edge
    14. Colts: Colston Loveland - TE
    15. Browns (Trade 33, 67, 2026 2nd to Atlanta): Shadeur Sanders - QB
    16. Cardinals: Matthew Golden - WR
    17. Bengals: Mike Green - Edge
    18. Seahawks: Kelvin Banks Jr. - OT
    19. Tampa Bay: Jihaad Campbell - Edge
    20. Broncos: Omarion Hampton - RB
    21. Steelers: Nick Emmanwori - Safety
    22. Chargers: Donovan Ezeiruaku - Edge
    23. Packers: Mykel Williams - Edge
    24. Giants (Trade 34 and 65 to Minnesota): Jalen Milroe - QB
    25. Texans: Grey Zabel - IOL
    26. Rams: Jahdae Barron - CB
    27. Ravens: Derrick Harmon - DT
    28. Lions: James Pearce Jr. - Edge
    29. Commanders: Malaki Starks - Safety
    30. Bills: Maxwell Hairston - CB
    31. Chiefs: Walter Nolen - IOL
    32. Eagles: Kenneth Grant - DT
     
  12. MidDave

    I'm Sleepy Supporter

    Hate how cool this would be for the Browns
     
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  13. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    it’s cool if he’s good. and they’ll sell jerseys. buuuuttttt idk about that
     
  14. Donnie Ruth

    Prestigious Supporter

    Hell yeah Harmon just dropped his profile on Bech and he's a fan. I was really intrigued by what I saw with Bech
     
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  15. xbrokendownx

    Lets Go. Prestigious

    fire Grier if we pick an Edge at 13

    (fire him anyways, but yeah)
     
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  16. JoshIsMediocre

    chorus's #1 oklahoma city comets fan Moderator

    it is apparently pronounced "Besh" if anyone was curious
     
  17. Graham falling to 8 would be awesome
     
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  18. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    what are the character concerns for pearce? people keep mentioning it but i’m not seeing anything for him like i am mike green or whatever
     
  19. Fucking Dustin

    "Dustin’s correct" - Randall Supporter

    Everything I saw was that he was extremely naturally talented and just tried to coast off that and not actually try so basically stuff like that
     
  20. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    oh. seems like there is probably a better phrase that can be used to describe that haha
     
  21. JoshIsMediocre

    chorus's #1 oklahoma city comets fan Moderator

    on-field there's Tennessee's whole thing of putting him in the most advantageous position possible on every down

    i (a non film watcher, avid podcast listener) would not want to take him
     
  22. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

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  23. Fucking Dustin

    "Dustin’s correct" - Randall Supporter

    It's really probably that "character concerns" is used too much for things that should make players actually undraftable but yeah there still probably is a better way to put that
     
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  24. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

    Nothing like, extremely detailed, but he was basically described as arrogant and uncoachable
     
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  25. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    i guess that is literally a concern with his character haha just seems weird to lump that in the same umbrella with mike green who was accused of SA twice

    not saying anyone in here is doing that
     
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