It literally says teams are trying to sway him to enter the portal, which he has not done yet. Is that not tampering? On top of the portal window not even being open yet. My main point is there are no rules to these processes as much as the NCAA is trying to pretend there is.
I don’t believe there has ever been a transfer rule for tampering. I could be wrong but you have players tweeting at each other to link up all year long. I guess I don’t really get the issue. Florida presumably is also trying to sway him to stay and sway kids at other schools to transfer to leave if Baugh leaves
I do think the constant transferring has lessened my emotional attachment to the sport and Wisconsin but I do think at the same times it’s made for a better product. Seeing TTU and Indiana have legitimate shots at becoming powerhouses is a net good and never would have happened before NIL/the portal
Shit, back in the day didn’t kids also have to sit out a year if they transferred??? Maybe I’m misremembering but I thought that was a thing. What a crazy and stupid rule that was (if that is what the rule was). Not comparing it to how things work today but holy hell how different things are now.
I think the point of “why aren’t there tampering rules like there are in pro sports” is a fair one. Players can do whatever, as they do in the pros, but it seems a little weird colleges can try to convince someone to transfer as opposed to having to wait for them to be in the portal to recruit them.
@morgantayler saw that. Would suck to lose him after also losing Daniels, but fuck it. Most replaceable position on the roster, at least. Hope he does well.
This is my point. Obviously teams tamper and it’s going to happen but in pro leagues we have seen there are actual consequences when it gets put out there. The two that I can think of immediately are Woj reporting that the Heat were trading for and extending Kyle Lowry for a specific contract numbers 2 minutes after a trade window opened, and the Dolphins talking to Tom Brady while he was under contract with another team. Here there are multiple schools trying to convince a player to transfer when the window is not open yet, there should absolutely be rules/sanctions for it.
You need to divorce the “college” aspect of it from your mind. We are moving closer and closer to them getting rid of the charade of them being “students” at the schools too. It’s fine. It’s basically just another pro league. If players wanna sign one year contracts like they’re allowed to in every other sport that’s fine.
I don’t think anyone is having trouble divorcing the student aspect from the sports aspect, if anything the point was that it should operate more like pro sports do
And if they were signing 1 year deals that would be one thing, but they’re signing “as long as I feel like it” deals now which isn’t really sustainable for anyone.
It seems plenty sustainable for the athletes and the schools. It only seems unsustainable for the fans.
If Florida loses this running back they will simply grab another one from another school as they have always done. Fans of Florida would have been stoked and not concerned at all if they grabbed him from Texas and not the other way around. It’s just fandom, which I get, but there’s a reason why when someone (I’m really not trying to single Morgan out, I do this too as do tons of people in this thread) transfers to a school they like it’s only celebratory and when they transfer away from a school they like it’s doom and gloom and we have to fix this sport
During the pre-NIL system, players would lobby other players to join them too and after a coach got fired players would transfer all the time still. They would just have to sit out a year, which I don’t think anyone would argue is fair or good for the players. This isn’t “new,” it’s just more rampant now. Players should be allowed to play where they want to play and pretending they should be like jurors on a murder trial and not be able to look at their phones or have conversations with peers seems a bit outdated
I mean, I get all that, but I don’t have a fandom here. I only started paying attention to CFB because of the league I’m in with people. But it strikes me as contradictory to want CFB to be viewed as a professional sport, but balk at the structure implemented by every professional sports. No league allows players to just leave because they just feel like it. How is that good for anyone other than the top 5% of programs? How is anyone supposed to build up a program to compete? I don’t want to lock kids into schools but when we’re getting to a 7th year of eligibility and a dude has transferred 6 times already that’s absurd. There has to be some middle ground that still allows kids to over perform at Boston College and go to LSU and make a case for the NFL, but also allows Boston College to actually try and compete is all I’m saying.
Sustainable for SOME schools I think it is for a school like Florida of course but yeah I still think it’s worth exploring
Both Morgan and I have agreed players lobbying one another is whatever. The contention was when the school itself was getting involved.
I would say the nba allows people to leave because they feel like it. Kevin Durant can tweet he wants out and he gets traded two weeks later also this is how people build a program. Indiana went from irrelevant for decades to in the playoff but not a contender to the best team in the country in a two year stretch. Texas tech went from not quite irrelevant to in the playoff on the back of the most expensive roster in CFB history.
You just aren’t going to convince me or a fan of Indiana or Texas tech that the NIL hasn’t been able to build programs lol. We went from the same five teams for 25 years to actual parity. I don’t know what you are talking about.
This is also ignoring expanded playoffs and the retirement of Saban which are MAJOR contributors to said parity
Didn’t say it’s running smoothly even once man. There are definitely issues. Players and schools trying to sway players who were already considering to leave to actually leave is not one of them