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What about #3

 

There's a difference but there's no way you aren't getting diminishing returns as the price goes up. I've heard chefs/sommeliers say that too but at a price point that's still way above what I'd ever spend

 

On #3?

 

I mean yeah I guess

 

You’ll never guess what song he’s singing

 

wife is at a Shania Twain concert in Vegas. A seltzer is $19. Small cocktails are $26. dumb

 

I am a professional and I 100% would say it’s not diminishing returns until you get past $300

 

$200 bottles are generally way better than $100 bottles and $300 bottles are often ELITE. It is *not* a small / negligible difference between those tiers. but yeah past that and you’re paying for prestige and the amount of technology that goes into making the wine than anything

 

Part of what also makes wine expensive is age. There’s a different sweet spot for every wine - for example you want to drink Sancerre very young because it loses that herbal / mineral rounded, juicy flavor that it’s known for over time, but an Italian Barolo doesn’t step into its prime until it’s at least 8-10 years old

wines that are designed to last and to have pleasant flavor transformations at 3 years, 5 years, 10 years tend to cost more as well

 

(And those are sub-sub categories, Sancerre is a specific type & region of French Sauvignon Blanc, Barolo is a specific type & region of Italian Nebbiolo, so other Sauv Blancs and Nebbiolo have different characteristics)

 

for me the law of diminishing returns starts on anything over 20 bucks

 

That’s my working class hero right there

 

maybe not everything

 

I think people overapply the law of diminishing returns. It is true / exists for VERY high end stuff but those are outliers. For the majority of things quality and cost have a positive correlation until you reach an absurdly high breaking point

 

Not to say that it’s “wrong” to be like “I don’t care about chasing higher and higher quality I just want something cheap that I like enough to justify buying.” That’s totally valid, everyone has a cutoff point where budget matters more to them. but it IS wrong to assume people only buy more expensive stuff to flaunt money.

 

no doubt but i still buy 1 ply tp always

 

I simply would not spend that much on wine lol

but I’m not the target market

 

Can it also be wrong to assume that EVERYTHING expensive is better than EVERYTHING slightly cheaper, absolutely, sometimes the cheaper thing can be better - but within reason. Saying there’s limited difference between $60 wine and $200 wine is just false and ignorant lol, we don’t need to virtue signal about it, it’s easier to just say you don’t value wine that much (which most of yall are doing, to be fair)

 

The thing that gets me is you spend almost that much on beer lol

you had like $100 of beers when we went to see mewithoutyou, a $100 bottle of wine would actually get you just as drunk and taste way better

 

I think there’s also a heuristic (a human bias that the brain uses as a shortcut for faster decision making) at play here that’s like, spending that much money precipitously feels better than spending it all at once even if the end result is the same

 

If someone tried to upsell me to a $200 bottle of wine I’d politely but firmly invite them to kiss my piss

 

Oh yeah I was talking like double that even

 

No one is selling $200 wine to someone who doesn’t care about wine though. I’m selling that to people who are already looking through our whole wine list, and not clearly trying to be cost conscious by pointing to our cheapest bottles or only being interested in our wines by glass

the goal of a sommelier is not to sell the most expensive bottles that a table will buy, its short sighted to try to maximize that one sale. The goal is to find the right “match”, the right wine for their meals + price point + flavor preferences, so that they keep coming back and trusting your judgment

knowing you I’d be much more likely to offer you nice rum, and if you wanted wine for some reason I’d point you to our very best $60-$70 bottles

 

Oh yes big same

 

If someone is buying a nice bottle of wine and offers me a glass I’ll take it. But wine is a much higher barrier to entry than beer or a cocktail, especially when you are at a restaurant.
A bottle contains 5 ish glasses? So at 100 bucks a bottle on the lower end of what you’re talking about is 20 bucks a glass and no beer and few cocktails are hitting that. You’re catering to a higher class of society at your job.