2023-2024 NFL Season Thread • Page 3909

Whyrod

 

whynotrod??

 

You know I’ve talked a lot of shit but… if we get Ridley back in two days, get Josh Allen extended this year, and the line stays healthy then this was ultimately a good free agent class. I won’t pretend to understand the cap enough to understand how it’s getting done, all I’ll say is it better be getting done, cause if we lose Ridley it’s automatically a D and if we don’t re-sign Allen because we “don’t have enough cap space” it’s an F.

But even hating the Gabe Davis deal, every other deal we made on day 1 was a pretty good bargain, at a position we needed to add competition / a potential starter.

And while I think we are wildly overpaying Scherff and that Cam always gonna be an unreliable pass blocker… I get the argument behind keeping continuity on the line considering -
1) our center the whole year was getting bulldozed and that hurts everybody else, we did improve that position for cheap, and we also only got a few games to see Ezra in action after Bartsch was so bad we cut him (a mid round pick) mid-season during his rookie deal.

2) Depth is really, really necessary and last year proved to us we were already thin when Scherff / Cam missed time, I admit it is nice to have 3 tackles and not be forced to draft IOL early

3) Trevor’s contract year is not the time to shake up the whole offense, we want to evaluate how much he can improve with, and elevate, the offense already in place before we start testing him with too many new faces.

idk. Maybe this line with non suspended Cam, Ezra over Bartsch and Morse over Fortner the whole year, Scherff healthier (??? Big if here), Anton in year two, and Little as a luxury swing tackle IS capable of being a lot better with more reps together. But that’s ONLY if we can keep our best player on defense and our best weapon on offense in the process.

 

I get Dustin’s post earlier that resigning Ridley could be a risk on its own but my thing is we already traded the 3rd round pick for the fucking guy and then threw it enough to him to where that could’ve been a 2nd round pick. So you better keep that energy and believe in him cause why the fuck would we pay a 3rd round pick for a one year rental? If that’s all we got out of Ridley, well, our offense didn’t improve at all in 2023 so that just makes the whole thing look bad. Either have conviction about the move, and prove to the fans we didn’t waste that valuable pick, and that we were smart to be patient with getting him back up to speed… or don’t make the move.

If he was a bust, yeah, cut bait, but his route running is good enough to have the attention of the whole league. We better be the team to benefit from that if anyone.

 

Currently:

QB - Trevor Lawrence, Mac Jones, CJ Beathard
RB - Travis Etienne, Tank Bigsby
WR - Christian Kirk, Gabe Davis, Zay Jones, Devin Duvernay, Parker Washington, Elijah Cooks, Zay Jones
TE - Evan Engram, Luke Farrell, Brenton Strange, Josh Pederson
LT - Cam Robinson, Walker Little
LG - Ezra Cleveland, Blake Hance
C - Mitch Morse, Luke Fortner
RG - Brandon Scherff, Cooper Hodges
RT - Anton Harrison

LE - Roy Robertson-Harris, Tyler Lacy
DT - DaVon Hamilton, Jeremiah Ledbetter
RE: Adam Gotsis, Esezi Otomewo
EDGE: Josh Allen*, Travon Walker, Yasir Abdullah, De'Shaan Dixon
LB: Foye Oluokun, Devin Lloyd, Chad Muma, Ventrell Miller
CB: Tyson Campbell, Ronald Darby, Montaric Brown, Christian Braswell, Amani Oruwariye, Tevaughn Campbell
NB: Antonio Johnson
S: Andre Cisco, Darnell Savage, Andrew Wingard, Daniel Thomas, Erick Hallett

Assuming We Push For:

WR: Calvin Ridley
IDL: Sheldon Rankins
EDGE: Chase Young, Danielle Hunter, or Josh Uche + Bud Dupree

Wouldn't Mind as Alternatives:

IDL: A'Shawn Robinson, Tim Settle
EDGE: DJ Wonnum
LB: Tyrel Dodson, Willie Gay, Devin White
CB: Kristian Fulton, Kei'Sean Nixon

So yeah, any way you slice it corner and idl will be our top priority lol

 

These are all great

 

Why are you assuming we push for so many more FA players haha

 

That's 3-4 more guys total. We're in on Calvin already and pursued Chase, Danielle, and Uche during the season. Sheldon and Bud are just former Nielsen players that should be pretty cheap so they make sense as veteran editions if nothing else.

 

Just do Calvin and that’s it for big moves imo. Uche is as much as I’m willing to spend on a rotational edge and if we wanted to do much more than that we shouldn’t have signed Gabe Davis.

 

Sheldon is strictly 4-3 so I’m not sure he fits with uour 3-4 diagraming of the roster. But man is that DL of ours BAD if we stay in 3-4.

 

In a 4-3, we could go Allen / Rankins / Hamilton / Travon and that’s a believably good front four, but then Uche and Bud aren’t good fits as rotational guys.

 

Danielle would be a big move. The rest wouldn't be though.

 

Bud had his best season since leaving Pittsburgh in this scheme

 

Chase Young is also too rich for us

 

And it’ll probably stay that way, he’s 31

 

Not necessarily.

 

Yes and quite cheap.

 

Why do we need to make more moves before we’ve signed Ridley or Allen

my overall opinion on that hasn’t changed. We’ve already spent more than I could imagine us spending while giving the middle finger to our best talent

 

I never said before.

 

I don’t care if it’s cheap,

a few million here is the difference between Allen’s franchise tag and getting $30M of a contract’s guaranteed money out the way.

A few million there is the difference between signing Calvin Ridley and signing Gabe Davis

 

Just me and the fellas late night

 

This may come as a total shock but at no point did I say or suggest we do that in spite of Josh or Calvin.

 

So yeah every few million dollars move hurts and the $13M to a third receiver when we’re already planning on the other two not being rookies REALLY hurts. Morse, Darby, good moves. Restructuring Scherff and Cam, risky but fine. Let’s not go overboard with building a team through contracts and not the draft

 

The money will say that eventually

 

Signing Bud Dupree is not building through contracts lol