2022 NFL Season Football • Page 619

i did specify THIS year. We have Allen, Mahomes, Burrow, Herbert, Wilson, Jackson, Carr, Ryan. Dark horses in Lawrence and Tua if they take the leap. Or like, the NFC with Rodgers and Brady automatically locking up two of the three roster spots.

 

I’m prepared to call Taylor > Faulk since Taylor has never had Bill Belichick write a one line defensive game plan against him in a super bowl.

“Just hit Marshall”

 

You make me angry sometimes.

 

Mac Jones was like the 3rd alternate. Now so many people skip the pro bowl it makes it kind of useless in determining how good someone is relative to their peers. I don’t even know, do all the guys that passed still get pro bowl credit? So there are like 10 pro bowl qbs this year if so?
Edit I guess Mac was the first alternate? Kind of surprised he was voted over Carr and Burrow. That can’t be right

 

Kenny Pickett future pro bowl alternate

 

1998: Terrell Davis, Marshall Faulk, Eddie George, Curtis Martin

Taylor: 1650 yards, 17 TDs
Davis: 2200 yards, 23 TDs
Faulk: 2200 yards, 10 TDs
George: 1600 yards, 6 TDs
Martin: 1650 yards, 9 TDs

2000: Edgerrin James, Eddie George, Corey Dillon

Taylor: 1650 yards, 14 TDs
James: 2300 yards, 18 TDs
George: 1900 yards, 16 TDs
Dillon: 1600 yards, 7 TDs

2002: Priest Holmes, Ricky Williams, LaDainian Tomlinson, Travis Henry

Taylor: 1700 yards, 8 TDs
Holmes: 2200 yards, 24 TDs
LT: 2200 yards, 15 TDs
Ricky: 2200 yards, 17 TDs
Henry: 1700 yards, 13 TDs

2003: Jamal Lewis, Priest Holmes, Clinton Portis

Taylor: 2000 yards, 7 TDs
Lewis: 2200 yards, 14 TDs
Holmes: 2100 yards, 27 TDs
Portis: 1900 yards, 14 TDs

 

Burrow was in the super bowl so i have to imagine thats why, right?

 

All purpose yards is a good frame of comparison now but it isn’t for back then when more than half the teams in the league Didnt even design their offenses to give their RBs a lot of routes / targets

 

That would then hurt Taylor's case

 

in what way is it his fault that Tom Coughlin didn’t believe in throwing the ball to runningbacks a lot lol

 

When they threw to him he was on point with it. Just didn’t happen much.

Lewis did legit have the 2000 yard season. That’s hard to do. And Holmes catching the ball a lot certainly is a bonus to his skillset even if it’s not a knock on Taylor.

 

they get forgotten a lot I feel like because they’re the Jags, but they really had some great offensive players in the late 90s and early 2000s. That Jimmy Smith/Keenan McCardell/Fred Taylor trio was crazy. A shame Taylor had so many injury issues

 

I’m sorry guys I did this to you all now we are talking about the Jaguars im trying to remove it

 

It isn't? But that's irrelevant to what the numbers are.

 

Target breakdown for those years.

 

It’s part of the context behind the numbers. Holmes got the chance to play receiver on passing downs while Fred was blocking half of them. And running swing / checkdown routes for most of the rest. Thats at least a good 400-500 yards of cushion where Taylor wasn’t even given the opportunity.

 

I mean LT: 101

taylor typically had half that or less lol

 

Cool beans but that changes absolutely nothing about what happened. The results are what they are. We can play hypotheticals all we want but that doesn't change the facts lol.

 

if he was capable of being LT, he would've been

 

It’s not a hypothetical. The type of offense you’re in can inflate or deflate your numbers drastically. Some of those offenses including KC were built to run 30 times a game and to intentionally, (not just with checkdowns) pass 5-8 more times to their runningback. Our team used the run to offset Brunell throwing to Jimmy and McCardell.

 

Okay, very good. So you agree Taylor had worse years than Priest Holmes then? And you aren't trying to blame it on scheme and say that Taylor would've been better in a reality that isn't this one?

 

for starters I’m not saying Taylor is LT. LT obviously is one of the GOATs.

LT was their whole offense. If Taylor got drafted by SD they would’ve used him more as a receiver. But he didn’t, he was drafted by an old school coach who wanted to pass out of the fucking I form and only give the ball to runningbacks in obvious running situations. Lol

 

no. Priest had more bad / injured years than Taylor lol and even in an offense that force fed him the ball.

 

There’s a reason he had 3000 less yards even with those high peaks.

 

Yes, therefore we judge him based on the situation he was in, not what could've been. Also, Fred had injury problems, he absolutely would not have survived SD.