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2022 NFL Season Football • Page 37

Discussion in 'Sports Forum' started by CarpetElf, Nov 29, 2021.

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  1. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

    Okay but what aren't you understanding here lol. If JJ is GENERATIONAL, then he's your first option. Not trade down and ONE of your options
     
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  2. Randall Mentzos

    When you hit a mothafucka, you hit that mothafucka Prestigious

    JJ was not my 8th best option… trading down from 9 was my 8th best option because we could probably get JJ at 20 anyway
     
  3. xbrokendownx

    Lets Go. Prestigious

    keep in mind that both Gallup and Cedrick Wilson are FA
     
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  4. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

    OK. So JJ was not your 8th best option but the scenario where you pick him was. How is that different
     
  5. Randall Mentzos

    When you hit a mothafucka, you hit that mothafucka Prestigious

    getting him at value was my first option yes thank you

    I would’ve considered JJ at 20 probably our best pick even if we also got someone better at 9
     
  6. Fucking Dustin

    Tell me what I missed Supporter

    Exactly it is SO hard to find a generational player that you just fuckin go get the generational player wherever you can
     
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  7. Randall Mentzos

    When you hit a mothafucka, you hit that mothafucka Prestigious

    Reaching for somebody that’s going to fall to your next pick should never be your first option no matter how high you are on them
     
  8. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

    Okay so he wasn't generational
     
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  9. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

    IF HE WAS GENERATIONAL

    HE WASNT A REACH
     
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  10. Fucking Dustin

    Tell me what I missed Supporter

    It shouldn't, unless THEY ARE GENERATIONAL

    You HAVE to understand what generational means
     
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  11. Randall Mentzos

    When you hit a mothafucka, you hit that mothafucka Prestigious

    I’m not saying generational prospect I am saying generational player.

    Justin Jefferson may not have been seen as a generational prospect (and I’m saying the NFL community was wrong about that, but admitting that I did change my mind because of the prevailing opinion)

    but as a player he holds the record for most rookie receiving yards (formerly held by Randy Moss) and the record for most in his first two years (formerly Beckham). I would say that’s pretty generational performance so far. He is literally instantly putting up top 3 WR in the league stats with KIRK COUSINS, a guy we regularly dunk on for not being as good as his stats suggest. In a primarily run-first offense too. Which you can’t say about a lot of guys. Let alone if you watch Vikings games you’d see that Cousins misses him a LOT on top of the numbers he already puts up.

    Did I pound the table for him at 9, was I willing to be the only guy saying that? No, and I guess I was weak for not wanting to have that argument. But I still feel vindicated that he is way better than the WR I was talked down to thinking he was.
     
  12. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

    lmao still somehow not your fault
     
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  13. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

    A generational player also typically has his records stand for more than one year.
     
  14. Randall Mentzos

    When you hit a mothafucka, you hit that mothafucka Prestigious

    Yeah, in this rare instance one generational player was overshadowed by another. It’s crazy they were both in the same offense but here we are. I’m glad I wasn’t wrong that JJ was elite too even if Chase has a more flashy / big play skill set
     
  15. Fucking Dustin

    Tell me what I missed Supporter

    On draft day you don't get to say "he's going to be a generational player but also he's not a generational prospect", that's just kinda insane

    You can say it with hindsight all day after the fact that he was a generational player but not a generational prospect (like Brady!), but not before the fuckin draft happens

    This is just all so stupid
     
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  16. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

    And once more for good measure - you cannot be talking about Jefferson as an NFL player while talking about draft perspective. That can only be referring to Jefferson the prospect. So when you say generational and passing on him, it's clear that you're referring to the prospect
     
  17. Randall Mentzos

    When you hit a mothafucka, you hit that mothafucka Prestigious

    Yeah, which is why I’m not sitting here saying “we should’ve taken him at 9 over Henderson”. THAT would be hindsight. But I’m saying, knowing that he is generational now, I’m disappointed we didn’t take him where I originally wanted him / where he was actually valued at the time because he turned out to be a steal. Imo we were not aggressive enough if we didn’t take Lamb at 9 OR JJ at 20
     
  18. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

    I didn't have JJ to us at 20. I'm disappointed that we didn't take him. Idk what's so difficult about saying that lol
     
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  19. Fucking Dustin

    Tell me what I missed Supporter

    It's all hindsight! Literally all of it
     
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  20. Randall Mentzos

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    I don’t think so. At the time I considered JJ one of the best options at 20 and he was my top option there if we didn’t go Lamb. He was my favorite player there but I wanted one WR and one defense player… if we didn’t take Lamb it was JJ for me all day. That’s not me saying I knew he was gonna be a generational player… that’s me saying damn I was right to value him as our best option there because he has turned out to be that good
     
  21. theagentcoma

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    Lmao I knew when I missed 4 pages it'd be some Jags nonsense
     
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  23. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

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  24. Randall Mentzos

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    And yet on draft day I have him listed as a top option for pick 20, to the point I’d even like to target him if we trade down from pick 9
     
  25. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

    But I literally posted receipts that said otherwise
     
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