2021 NFL Season Thread Football • Page 353

What makes you say that? A lot of teams that pick a few picks above us really love him.

including the Titans. Which I HATE cause he’s a great fit for them as well. I can’t imagine they’re targeting him with their late second.

 

@broken22 @Fucking Dustin My main point is you don’t have to go to THAT place to get an A+ Maryland seafood experience. Just like there’s no place that’s THE fried chicken spot in Atlanta. It’s the local culture, every fuckin seafood shack and bar/restaurant and diner does it well, and cheaper than the big name places who are attracting tourists.

shit, there’s a no frills diner in Canton, (a way cooler part of Baltimore than Jimmy’s is in)... called the Sip & Bite that was featured by Guy Fieri on Food Network for their crab cakes. Their two crab cake dinner costs $17.

 

I'd pretty much say anyone that is being consistently mocked in the mid-20s is not a lock for the first round.

 

Ah okay, that’s fair. I just know that he’s been receiving a lot more buzz lately after that Pro Day. For me personally, it confirmed the tape is no joke and he’s actually bigger and faster than I thought.

 

Is it?

That is too bad nvm

 

You really can't base anything off post pro day hyped. Literally every prospect this year is getting hyped off their pro day.

 

he’s had a lot of additional visits scheduled with teams since. That’s what I’m talking about, not just media hype. Ravens, Browns, Titans, Patriots, Saints... of the teams that met with him recently, the only one I think would take him with a round 2 pick is the Broncos.

 

But the board isn't locked.

 

Idk I could definitely be wrong. I wouldn’t have any questions about taking the most versatile, highest ball production, and also one of the most athletic linebackers in the first round.

 

This isn't me dunking on you btw or dunking on Collins. I just don't really buy a lot of "the tea leaves say this" kinda stuff based on how pro days look or team visits or stuff like that haha.

 

It's just as likely the Pats like Collins at 15 as it is that they're considering trading back and wanna know who their late first early 2nd options are is kinda what i'm saying.

 

Yeah and it’s fair not to read too much into it. I am admitting a lot of this is just me thinking he’s that good and being afraid the Titans will take him :(

 

He's not one of the most athletic though, which is why he could fall

 

Most players haven't had a ton of meetings prior to pro day.

 

He is when you consider his size. You don’t have to sacrifice block shedding and blitz capability to keep him on the field on passing downs. Strength and size is a big part of athleticism because it affords you more things. He’s Dont’a Hightower’s size but able to move well in space and handle zone coverage also.

 

His size was still being considered. He's very athletic, just not the most.

 

Well speaking of a hole in the wall, I forget the name of it but I got crab cakes in Baltimore once, the place was very nice but in the ghetto and I was recommended not to walk from the hotel. But my god the crab cakes were out of this world.

 

I’m not in the minds of these teams so I can’t really argue. And I’m not a pro scout. I just consider it logical that a very hard combination of skills to find is first-round value.

It would help any team to always have a thumper LB on the field who can just blow up blocks and get in the backfield, that sets the tempo. But the problem is it’s usually not practical because those kinda players tend to struggle to shift their weight when a route crosses their zone, and they can’t handle sub package responsibilities against 3 & 4 WR fronts. Going up against the Chiefs or Packers, usually your thumper is pretty much taken out of the game because they don’t even need to attack the trenches to win.

Zaven is one that not only can be out there in Cover 3 and stay nimble on his feet, but who also has the high football IQ to close some of those passing windows that would otherwise be open. Plus 6’5” length that he uses very well to get FFs and PBUs. I think that’s badass and a fairly rare combination haha.

 

I'm gonna do my first round mock in a few because I am bored af today

 

okay this rules

 

Very little thought went into this....

1) Jacksonville Jaguars – Trevor Lawrence, QB, Clemson
2) New York Jets – Zach Wilson, QB, BYU
3) San Francisco 49ers (via MIIA via HOU) – Mac Jones, QB, Alabama
4) Atlanta Falcons – Kyle Pitts, TE, Florida
5) Cincinnati Bengals – Penei Sewell, OT, Oregon
6) Miami Dolphins (via PHI) – Ja’Marr Chase, WR, LSU

***TRADE***
WFT trades a bunch of stuff for #7

7) Washington Football Team (via DET) – Trey Lance, QB, North Dakota Stat

***TRADE***
NE trades a bunch of stuff for #8

8) New England Patriots (via CAR) – Justin Fields, QB, Ohio State
9) Denver Broncos – Rashawn Slater, OL, Northwestern
10) Dallas Cowboys – Patrick Surtain II, CB, Alabama
11) New York Giants -Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama
12) Philadelphia Eagles (via MIA via SF) – Devonta Smith, WR, Alabama
13) Los Angeles Chargers – Christian Darrishaw, OT, Virginia Tech
14) Minnesota Vikings – Alijah Vera-Tucker, IOL, USC
15) Carolina Panthers (via NE) – Kwity Paye, EDGE, Michigan
16) Arizona Cardinals – Jaycee Horn, CB, South Carolina
17) Las Vegas Raiders – Micah Parsons, LB, Penn State
18) Miami Dolphins – Najee Harris, RB, Alabama
19) Detroit Lions (via WFT) – Teven Jenkins, OT, Oklahoma State
20) Chicago Bears – Rashod Bateman, WR, Minnesota
21) Indianapolis Colts – Christian Barmore, DT, Alabama
22) Tennessee Titans – Kadarius Toney, WR, Florida
23) New York Jets (via SEA) – Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, LB/S, Notre Dame
24) Pittsburgh Steelers – Caleb Farley, CB, Virginia Tech
25) Jacksonville Jaguars (via LAR) – Terrace Marshall Jr, WR, LSU
26) Cleveland Browns – Azeez Ojulari, EDGE, Georgia
27) Baltimore Ravens – Jaelan Phillips, EDGE, Miami
28) New Orleans Saints – Zaven Collins, LB, Tulsa
29) Green Bay Packers – Rondale Moore, WR, Purdue
30) Buffalo Bills - Greg Newsome II, CB, Northwestern
31) Kansas City Chiefs – Liam Eichenberg, OT, Notre Dame
32) Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Travis Etienne, RB, Clemson

 

Only part that strikes me as something that won't happen is Jaelan Phillips in the first.

 

4 Alabama players in the first 12 picks lmao

 

Paye and Burns would be a pretty fun edge combo

 

Here’s mine.

Note: in this scenario, SF wanted Lance the whole time, but knew ATL likes Fields and wasn’t interested in trading out of #4. By trading above them to #3, SF smokescreens ATL into thinking they want Fields, both getting in position to draft Lance, while also recouping some of that draft value they spent to get there.

1) Jacksonville Jaguars – Trevor Lawrence, QB, Clemson
2) New York Jets – Zach Wilson, QB, BYU

***TRADE***ATL trades a bunch of stuff for #3

3) Atlanta Falcons (via SF <- MIA <-HOU) – Justin Fields, QB, Alabama
4) San Francisco 49ers (via ATL) – Trey Lance, QB, North Dakota State
5) Cincinnati Bengals – Penei Sewell, OT, Oregon
6) Miami Dolphins (via PHI) – Ja’Marr Chase, WR, LSU
7) Detroit Lions – Rashawn Slater, OL, Northwestern
8) Carolina Panthers – Kyle Pitts, TE, Florida
9) Denver Broncos – Devonta Smith, WR, Alabama
10) Dallas Cowboys – Patrick Surtain II, CB, Alabama
11) New York Giants - Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama
12) Philadelphia Eagles (via MIA via SF) – Jaycee Horn, CB, South Carolina

***TRADE***WAS trades a bunch of stuff for #13

13) Washington Football Team (via LAC) – Mac Jones, QB, Alabama
14) Minnesota Vikings – Christian Darrisaw, OT, Virginia Tech
15) New England Patriots – Christian Barmore, DT, Alabama
16) Arizona Cardinals – Greg Newsome II, CB, Northwestern
17) Las Vegas Raiders – Azeez Ojulari, EDGE, Georgia
18) Miami Dolphins – Micah Parsons, LB, Penn State
19) Los Angeles Chargers (via WFT) – Alijah Vera-Tucker, OL, USC
20) Chicago Bears – Trevon Moehrig, S, TCU
21) Indianapolis Colts – Sam Cosmi, T, Texas
22) Tennessee Titans – Zaven Collins, ILB, Tulsa
23) New York Jets (via SEA) – Kwity Paye, EDGE, Michigan
24) Pittsburgh Steelers – Teven Jenkins, OT, Oklahoma St
25) Jacksonville Jaguars (via LAR) – Ka’Darius Toney, WR, Florida
26) Cleveland Browns – Jaelan Phillips, EDGE, Miami
27) Baltimore Ravens – Rashod Bateman, WR, Minnesota
28) New Orleans Saints – Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, LB/S, Notre Dame
29) Green Bay Packers – Creed Humphrey, C, Oklahoma
30) Buffalo Bills - Najee Harris, RB, Alabama
31) Kansas City Chiefs – Liam Eichenberg, OT, Notre Dame
32) Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Gregory Rosseau, EDGE, Miami