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2021 NFL Draft Football • Page 26

Discussion in 'Sports Forum' started by xbrokendownx, Nov 1, 2020.

  1. Randall Mentzos

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    I wouldn’t hate taking a DE. More pass rush makes a bad defense randomly perform better. Allen’s great and Chaisson had a strong finish but another rotational guy would be awesome, especially if Chaisson might take snaps at SAM LB where he’s also capable
     
  2. CarpetElf

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    I'd much rather take a full time LB than a part time DE. Unless a freakishly good prospect falls to us that'd be a terrible move for us considering our best safety is gonna have to go back to playing bass in Three Days Grace once things open up again
     
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  3. Randall Mentzos Jan 21, 2021
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    Randall Mentzos

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    i guess. I think we already have our full time LBs in Jack and Schobert. I don’t value the SAM LB position as much as a rotational DE, especially since I love the idea of putting a hybrid pass rusher there.

    I would also argue the SAM LB is on the field even less than your third DE, because of sub packages / trying to stop the pass in the modern NFL. Often in games, you’re wearing your main pass rushers out while the other team is in hurry up offense, and end up having to send depth guys out in the nickel to prevent late scoring drives. I feel like the game flow is like that; equally as often, as teams coming out in 7-8 man boxes to shut down the run.

    that said, S or CB is a bigger need absolutely. CJ Henderson hasn’t shown he can be CB1 yet and we have NOTHING in our secondary aside from him
     
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  4. Randall Mentzos

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    @CarpetElf my other concern is, we play in Derrick Henry / Jonathan Taylor’s division and neither Allen nor Chaisson are stout run defenders. They have flashes but we really do need a big end to set the edge against stretch and off-tackle runs.
     
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  5. CarpetElf

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    Eh, it depends on the scheme.

    Yeah, cause of that there's just no way I'd be into a luxury pick that early unless it's huge value.

    Yeah, this is true.
     
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  6. PeacefulOrca

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    Also, I think the giants supposedly love Pitts but maybe that’s just a thing so the cowboys take him lol
     
  7. Credit where it's due to Saban too. That's a trick play essentially. There was no miscommunication towards the sideline, it's designed to get Stingley flat footed or out of his stance while they know Smith can burn him. Perfect throw and execution by Tua on that. He claps for the snap before he even has his head turned all the way around, it's a nice all around.
     
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  8. PeacefulOrca

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    There’s gotta be some dumb teams in the top picks telling draft analysts they prefer slater, they can’t be thatttt dumb to think he’s actually better than sewell
     
  9. Night Channels

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    Slater is a guard
     
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  10. PeacefulOrca

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    Maybe all tackles are actually guards

    [​IMG]
     
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  11. No but Slater is actually a guard but he'll be good.
     
  12. PeacefulOrca

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    Yeah, jenkins > slater
     
  13. Randall Mentzos

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    this reminds me of my “Brandon Scherff is a tackle” crusade lmao

    woops
     
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  14. PeacefulOrca

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    If the bengals have a choice of both and take slater, that’s how you know they’re still the bungles
     
  15. CarpetElf

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    They 100 percent wouldnt unless both Jonah and Hart grow multiple arms in the next two months
     
  16. PeacefulOrca

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    That version of bob hart would still stink at football
     
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  17. Just did a mock in the scenario of Panthers getting Watson.

    I traded 2021 1st/4th, 2022 1st/5th, 2023 1st/6th
    for
    2021 6th, 2022 5th, 2023 4th

    (I know other teams can offer more but with the NTC that may not matter as much)


    [​IMG]
     
  18. CarpetElf

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    Traded 25, 33, 2022 1st and 3rd for 3
    Traded 3 and 46 for 4, 36, and 68

    let's fucking go
     
  19. CarpetElf

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  20. xbrokendownx

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    I can't say I'd be happy trading that far back, but getting the JAX 1st in 2022 is very valuable. That could be another top 10 pick.

    IF that trade were to happen, I would try to package 18 and 25 to move up into the top 10 and get whichever WR is left

    we'd also then have 33, 36, and 50
     
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  21. CarpetElf

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  22. Randall Mentzos

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    I’ll answer that for you, Moehrig
     
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  24. Randall Mentzos

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    I disagree that a slot WR is more important than a safety who can play both box and single high

    it’s not just about position. Even by position value drastically changes depending on that player’s role. Safeties like Moehrig are not easy to find.
     
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    A wide receiver is far more valuable than a safety, especially when you're about to draft a quarterback #1 overall.
     
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