2019-2020 NFL Season Thread [ARCHIVED] Football • Page 1871

Drag his ass king

 

it really is this simple. are those 2 superbowls worth something? for sure. but being consistently great is worth MUCH more. eli at best showed occasional flashes of being a borderline top 10 qb.

when i say this its not me being a bitter pats fan, its me remembering avoiding eli like the plague in fantasy for his WHOLE career.

 

DRAG THE LAKE!
YOU’LL FIND IT’S FULL OF LOVE!!!

 

Is this mewithoutyou?

 

Yeah, 2011 is the only year you can argue he was a top 5 QB; he was top 5 in most categories and led the league in 4th quarter comebacks + Game winning drives. Every other year his TD/INT ratio is too far off to make up for his yards.

Also, its not like he had a Brady or Rodgers run of consistently dominant teams. Only 5 of his 15 season feature 10 or more wins. He's got one 10+ game winning season since 2013...and in his first Super Bowl season, the only thing he led the league in was INTs.

His career is basically a testament to mediocre teams frequently trailing and being forced to pass 600 times a season.

 

Someone at work was saying that there’s a Raiders QB from the 70’s or 80’s who has a .500 winning record, two Super Bowl rings (1 SB MVP), was drafted #1 overall, has more career picks than touchdowns and played for like a decade or more. basically this guy was the first version of Eli Manning. And this guy isn’t in the HoF.

no idea how true this is though, but if true and that guys not in the HoF it makes it hard to see why Manning would since those are the same stats / situation that Manning is in.

 

No, silly head

 

You really don't know that's ETID?

 

I dont know their lyrics haha

 

I fuckin’ love ETID

 

I’m listening to the audition rn

@Max_123

 

Nice

 

Wrong thread grant

 

What does this even mean

 

I can't believe there are Giants fans who still like the Beckham trade lol

 

The last minute or so of “New Slaves” is insanely good.

 

yeet yourself to the moon, please

 

I wasnt talking shit, i love them

 

And that 2011 season, in many other years, he might have been league MVP if the Giants were 11-5; but 3 people have 5000yd seasons, 3 had 40+ TD's, and Brees completed 71+% of his passes. He still outdueled League MVP Rodgers in the playoffs, and had two straight 40+ attempt games to carry them over the line.

Eli is basically exactly why teams have their own ring of honor. He's undeniably an important Giant; and he won his Super Bowls against Patriots teams that were a combined 29-3 coming into the game (against his 19-16 Giants). He's almost single-handedly the reason Brady isnt the greatest NFL player of all time (if he was an 8-time SB winner and held a 19-0 season with every season record...).

But ultimately he's the 3rd best QB of his draft class. I dont think Rivers should be in, and there's an argument that Ben is kind of borderline. If Eli and Rivers are in, then Stafford is basically already in the HOF

 

rivers > eli

i dont think rivers should get in either, BUT i do think had he gone to the giants he would have done better than eli no question.

 

No way rivers or Stafford get in