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Discussion in 'Sports Forum' started by Max_123, Feb 5, 2018.

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  1. Donnie Ruth

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    Fun question:

    If Rodgers played his entire career under Belichick with the same teams Brady has had, would he be better than Brady or worse? Would he have 5, less, or more rings?

    I think Rodgers has more overall talent than Brady when across the board, but it just comes down to that clutch and mental game. This is where I think Brady is superior.
     
  2. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Platinum

    Remember that time Peyton Manning lost a Super Bowl by almost 40 points?

    I don't get why we think bringing up a couple off games actually means anything. Literally every player in every sport throughout history has played a bad game.
     
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  3. broken22

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    Nope.
     
  4. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Platinum

    Yeah, the Saints would've lost to the Pats.
     
  5. PeacefulOrca

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    Marcus Williams apparently picking Brees off daily in camp, maybe it's time
     
  6. Max_123

    Nope. Supporter

    Eagles/Saints is definitely the NFC Championship game we should have seen. I think Saints would have won but probably lost to Pats in SB
     
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  7. Randall Mentzos

    I believe in this team. Prestigious

    I know I’m not the only one tempted to do this
     
  8. xbrokendownx

    Lets Go. Prestigious

    there is no way you will ever convince me that Favre and Young were better than Marino
     
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  9. PeacefulOrca

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    I still think elway is hella overrated
     
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  10. preppyak

    Feel the Wrath Supporter

    Its funny how defined Romo is by that one play in the playoffs. And really, that one image. Statistically, there's not a huge gulf between Romo's stats and Rodgers. And yet Rodgers had that dominate 2010 playoff run and has done pretty well overall. Romo choked the few chances he got
     
  11. Randall Mentzos

    I believe in this team. Prestigious

    Same with Manning and a lot of top QB though.

    Kelly collapsed in 4 straight Super Bowls lmao
     
  12. I think the Steelers would have beat the Packers if Mendenhall didn't fumble the damn ball
     
  13. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Platinum

    Yeah that's what the problem was for Manning in Denver. Defense.
     
  14. preppyak

    Feel the Wrath Supporter

    Young and Rodgers are tougher because you have to account for their rushing. Rodgers rushed for 1000yds in 2010 if you count the playoffs. Id take Marino over Young for sure in greatest of all time...but if I were building a team, I think id want Young.

    Yeah, but Brees with an even functional defense should be holding 2-3 rings. He and Manning are both guys that are colored by the reality that while they had offensive recieving talent, everything else around them was dog shit most of the time.
     
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  15. Randall Mentzos

    I believe in this team. Prestigious

    Young was more efficient AND more of a winner. Also one of the best running QBs ever. There is no perspective statistically where you can put any 90s QB above Young. Young’s numbers would still be top 10 to top 5 today.

    Favre was slightly less efficient but more of a winner, probably the only 90s QB with a better arm than Marino... and just the pure longevity and numbers. Still taking the Vikings to the playoffs with grey hair and shit come onnnn. Marino was getting dwepped 62-7 in the wild card round by yours truly when he got old.

    It’s honestly hard for me to keep Favre, the first QB out of only 3 so far to reach 70,000 yards, out of the top 5 but yeah he had too many erratic years between his good ones to compete with my top 5 of all super consistent QBs
     
  16. Dinosaurs Dish

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    It's crazy for people to point to that one play for Romo and use it in any argument about how he's a choker or something.

    I doubt people would do it on here, thankfully, but if someone does, I know I can disregard their opinion of him or the NFL in general.

    I'd also say that he didn't choke the few chances he got, but that's a whole other debate.
     
  17. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Platinum

    Tony Romo is statistically the most likely QB to lead a successful fourth quarter comeback.
     
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  18. xbrokendownx

    Lets Go. Prestigious

    what the hell does "more of a winner" even mean? Look at the rosters that Marino had most of his career. For the most part, they were dogshit

    He never had a legitimate defense and never had a legitimate running game

    using one game as a barometer for a player's career is nonsense. the Packers and 49ers both had much better rosters consistently than Marino ever got to play with
     
  19. MidDave

    Prestigious Supporter

    I fucking love Carl Nassib.
     
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  20. Dinosaurs Dish

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    Yep. And he had tons of practice seeing as our defenses were dog shit the majority of his career.

    I can't tell you how many times I've watched him put up points like he's the best in the league only to watch our defense just get demolished.
     
  21. Randall Mentzos

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    It’s not one game. Marino went 242-240 over his career. You can’t ignore that basically every other QB we discuss has a better record. You can’t argue that Marino found the playoffs less often. If we WERE just talking about losing superbowls then I’d give Marino more credit. But while he put up numbers, some of these QB have literally carried bad teams to playoff success at times in their career. Favre’s cast wasn’t always that great.
     
  22. xbrokendownx

    Lets Go. Prestigious

    what lol no he didnt

    his record was 147-93 (62%)
    Favre was 186-112 (62%)
     
  23. whitenblue88

    The rivalry is back on

    I’ll bite. I think he would have less.

    2001 v STL: Rodgers was 18. He would have gotten eaten alive by an NFL defense

    Brady: 1
    Rodgers: 0

    2003 v CAR: Rodgers is now 20. Belichick is a magician, but not that good.

    Brady: 2
    Rodgers: 0

    2004 v PHI: Rodgers is 21 and at this point is probably considered the top QB prospect. Sure, I’ll bite. Belichick could probably win a Super Bowl with that defense and a talented project at QB.

    Brady: 3
    Rodgers: 1

    2007 v NYG: Aaron Rodgers can’t defend the helmet catch from the sideline.

    Brady: 3
    Rodgers: 1

    2008: Rodgers was healthy this year. “Rookie” Rodgers is still worth at least 2 more wins than Matt Cassel. Steelers have to play an extra game, which is their downfall, and the Pats skate over the Cardinals.

    Brady: 3
    Rodgers: 2

    2009 - 2015: Brady is playing like the GOAT at this point. Rodgers is also dope and doesn’t make a big dent one way or the other

    Brady: 4
    Rodgers: 3

    2016: Rodgers can’t come back from 28-3.

    Brady: 5
    Rodgers: 3

    2017: Rodgers is broken and doesn’t play in this Super Bowl. Brian Hoyer takes over for the Patriots, leads them to the Super Bowl, and is the stellar backup QB everyone is buzzing about this offseason.

    Brady: 5
    Rodgers: 3
     
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  24. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Platinum

    wait why in the shit are you counting before Rodgers was in the NFL
     
  25. Randall Mentzos

    I believe in this team. Prestigious

    Dude I just made the dumbest mistake

    I looked at games and games started I think lmao
     
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