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2018-2019 NFL Season Thread Football • Page 1731

Discussion in 'Sports Forum' started by Max_123, Feb 5, 2018.

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  1. My boss has just discovered air pods and now he uses them every time he's on the phone.
     
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  2. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

    Careful what you wish for
     
  3. MidDave

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    Guys! Matt finally liked a pic of Danny Etling with HIS Lombardi Trophy.
     
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  4. Max_123

    Nope. Supporter

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  5. Randall Mentzos

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    Yes. Thank you. Which is why, when discussing contract value, I pay more attention to how complete a player's skillset is, than stats. Stats can change just as fast as the team / context / playcalling changes, but skillsets are sustainable.

    Usually the skills match the stats, but in Dak's case the stats imply greater skills than what he has, and in Jimmy G's case the stats imply worse skills than what he has since he was playing for a terrrrrrible team.
     
  6. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

    Danny Etling is a Super Bowl winner. Sup, Bama?
     
  7. Max_123

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    I just want a QB that's just even worth arguing over
     
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  8. Max_123

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    Rather than no this guy just flat out sux
     
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  9. CarpetElf

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    This sounds familiar ;) ;) ;)
     
  10. Dinosaurs Dish

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    I never straight up said that Dak is great/nearly elite overall, I said he is in crunch time. That's two different things.

    Also, if you're 12th-16th in the league, that's mathematically above average, so I'm not sure why people keep saying it's not. Maybe it's semantics or something, but I've always maintained that he's above average.
     
  11. CarpetElf

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    I'd let all three of those guys walk tbh. Unless Dak signs a VERY favorable deal.
     
  12. Randall Mentzos

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    That rookie better be Daniel Jones, is all hahaha
     
  13. Owlex

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    I think it’s tricky because Dak is lower on the spectrum of startable guys in the league, but imo he’s there. I personally don’t really see how anyone can definitively say someone like Goff or Jimmy G is better than him. They’re all inexperienced, but have shown competence, and occasional excellence. But I also think coaching hasn’t done Dak many favors.
     
  14. Dinosaurs Dish

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    This is the logic I was talking about earlier. Goff and Wentz have more talent around them and on their coaching staff and have for 2 seasons now, but that fact isn't never stated as even a possible reason for why they're playing better. Of course it's just that they're naturally better themselves, right?

    What about the fact that Dak has been better in pretty much every way for the last 2-3 months of the season than Goff but it never gets mentioned or is swept under the rug?

    People pick their opinion at some point and never put it into context or are willing to change it until something drastic happens, like a Super Bowl win or appearance or something.
     
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  15. Owlex

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    I can’t believe I dragged myself into this discussion again lol damnit
     
  16. MidDave

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    It keeps happening lol

     
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  17. Randall Mentzos

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    Back up now, haha. I have ALWAYS said that supporting cast is inflating Goff's talent. And that he's terrible under pressure. Even before the 2016 draft I said that he needs a talented team cause he's not the one to do it all himself.

    I don't really think the Eagles are that much more talented than the Cowboys. I think the scales have tilted in the Cowboys favor in that argument lately, and that the Superbowl Eagles were maybe more so "hot" than they were a top talent team in the league.
     
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  18. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

    All three of those QBs are in ideal situations.
     
  19. CarpetElf

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    Randall - Cooks isnt good
    Randall - Goff is helped by his supporting cast.
     
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  20. Dinosaurs Dish

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    The only thing the Cowboys offense have had over the last couple seasons that is better than the Eagles is running back. Receiving corps, offensive line, and coaching are drastically better.
     
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  21. Dinosaurs Dish

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    Now that we have Cooper and hired our new offensive line coach, I think they're all in similar supporting offenses but we're last in coaching. I think that's a fair assessment.
     
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  22. CarpetElf

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    Yeah Eagles coaching staff is remarkably better haha. Garrett is literally the most perfectly balanced coach in the NFL. Its why he kept going 8-8 lol. He'll be exactly as good as he his bad
     
  23. MidDave

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    Danny Etling Super Bowl Wins - 1
    Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, Warren Moon, Vinny Testaverde combined Super Bowl Wins - 0
     
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  24. CarpetElf

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    Rex Burkhead has won more Super Bowls than Todd Gurley, Le'Veon Bell, and Ezekiel Elliott
     
  25. Randall Mentzos

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    This is a gross exaggeration haha

    I was saying that Cooks is a WR1 but a replaceable one. I had 6 tiers of WR1s and he was in tier 4 I believe. I never said he "isn't good". You're the one who says dramatic things like "It's okay to admit that Cooks is good" just because you don't agree with my criticisms of his skillset

    Also, that's one player. The Rams have an amazing line, runningback, and two other receivers who are high end WR2s before you even talk about Cooks.

    Nice "gotcha" attempt though lol keep trying i guess
     
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