2017-2018 NCAA Football Season Thread [Archived] Football • Page 185

When you have 13 data points of which to evaluate a team, then yeah, I don't think it's too wrong to take a step back and look at a bigger picture of just pure talent.

 

we aren’t going to be able to compete until we recruit 4* defensive backs. it’s our weakness year in and year out. only thing that holds us back.

 

Bama is 1st or 2nd in basically every statistical model around.

 

I’ve started like three different posts in which I was going to try to defend FSU and how they aren’t as bad as their record indicates, but the fact that I had to delete all three of them when I instantly realized I was wrong says everything about their season.

We were bad and I have a feeling Jimbo leaving truly is going to be a “blessing in disguise.”

 

No? I'm saying Alabama is objectively the bigger team. If they have to choose, they choose with their wallet. See: Washington getting demoted last year.

 

Should just forfeit the entire season if don't have any 4 or 5 stars back there.

 

wins and conferences titles are far more important than who "struggled"

a team with one loss that didn't make their conference title game doesn't deserve the playoffs more than a team with one loss who won their conference title

its a fairly straightforward, logical, thought process

 

If Wisky loses then we put them in the same discussion as Alabama, not sure how that's a ball buster argument. We'd judge Wisconsin accordingly.

 

Wisconsin wins and they’re in. That simple. 13-0 in a P5 will always get in. Not really sure what the argument y’all are having is based on?

If it’s what if Wisconsin loses, then sure. There’s a debate. But that doesn’t seem to be the case.

 

Alabama is better because they are actually better. The entire purpose of the playoff is to have the four BEST teams competing.

If Wisconsin wins, then I'll agree they are the best option for the fourth slot. If they lose, I don't see how you could claim it's not Alabama's spot to take. They were the best team in football all season long, until last week's loss to Auburn.

The only reason anyone would argue otherwise is because they are anti-SEC and don't want to see two teams from the same conference in the playoffs. I can see why someone would want that, but then you're ignoring the purpose of the playoffs.

All that said, let's not put the cart before the horse. Everyone's written off Wisconsin, but they aren't going to be an easy out tonight.

 

Let’s not kid ourselves, if Wisconsin loses they have no shot and Alabama is likely in

 

Alabama is the best team in college football. There really is no argument here. One mediocre game against a good team is going to keep them out of the playoffs

 

So you're saying that appearances matter more than who is actually better? Miami has clear weaknesses and they've showed all year. They've struggled against teams without winning records for almost the entire season. Counter that. Did they not do this? Did Alabama actually not blow out every team but their one loss, which was to a team that, as of right now, is ranked number two?

 

kiss my ass shitbird

 

I'm saying that wins and conference titles matter more than appearances

 

Those are the appearances lol. You're saying that being 1st in the ACC despite struggling against almost every team in the conference is better than being 2nd in the SEC despite blowing out every team but one.

 

They're currently down 21-0 and Clemson has the ball. All this stupid argument is getting you is an upgraded font size when I tell you to eat Drew's ass.

 

Alabama gets in if Ohio state wins right?

 

If Wisconsin loses, then how do you not put Ohio State ahead of them? If you compare a one-loss Alabama to a 2-loss OSU, how do you not put Alabama ahead of them?

Ergo, Alabama is in should Wisconsin lose and it's a ball buster argument to say otherwise.

 

I'm not kidding about anything. They'd be in the discussion, but I would def put Alabama in over Wisconsin, if Wisconsin loses.

 

I just don't like Hornibrook's last name.

 

Oh my god. Are people actually arguing that if Wisconsin LOSES this game they still are in the picture over Alabama??? Unreal.

 

Better than Beathard.

 

The only place I see that is people putting that in my mouth. I dunno.

 

Clemson
Georgia
Alabama
Oklahoma

If Wisconsin and Miami go on to lose.

Clemson
Georgia
Oklahoma
Wisconsin

If Wisconsin wins.

Alabama should be a 4 seed in scenario #1, but we all know the committee would salivate at the thought of a three-peat Natty game.

Not really sure how either scenario is contentious. Two losses is ruling the PAC12 out, why won’t it rule OSU out, especially with the Iowa loss.