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2000 in music.

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by phaynes12, Feb 7, 2022.

  1. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    Jimmy Eat World's Clarity won 1999. Let's see who wins The Year 2000 and begins the millennium. What an all-timer!

    Billboard chart-topping albums of 2000:
    Celine Dion - All the Way (cont. from 1999)
    DMX - And Then There Was X (cont. from 1999)
    Jay Z - Vol. 3 ... Life and Times of S. Carter (cont. from 1999)
    Santana - Supernatural (cont. from 1999)
    D'Angelo - Voodoo
    NSYNC - No Strings Attached
    Britney Spears - Oops! I Did It Again
    Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
    Various Artists - Now! Vol. 4
    Nelly - Country Grammar
    LL Cool J - GOAT
    Madonna - Music
    Mystikal - Let's Get Ready
    Radiohead - Kid A
    Ja Rule - Rule 3:36
    Limp Bizkit - Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water
    Jay Z - The Dynasty: Roc La Familia
    R. Kelly - TP2
    The Beatles - 1
    Backstreet Boys - Black & Blue

    Billboard chart-topping singles of 2000:
    Santana - Smooth (cont. from 1999)
    Christina Aguilera - What a Girl Wants (cont. from 1999)
    Savage Garden - I Knew I Loved You (cont. from 1999)
    Mariah Carey - Thank God I Found You (cont. from 1999)
    Lonestar - Amazed (cont. from 1999)
    Destiny's Child - Say My Name (cont. from 1999)
    Santana - Maria Maria (cont. from 1999)
    Aaliyah - Try Again
    Enrique Iglesias - Be With You
    Vertical Horizon - Everything You Want (cont. from 1999)
    Matchbox 20 - Bent
    NSYNC - It's Gonna Be Me
    Sisqo - Incomplete
    Janet Jackson - Doesn't Really Matter
    Madonna - Music
    Christina Aguilera - Come On Over Baby (cont. from 1999)
    Creed - With Arms Wide Open (cont. from 1999)
    Destiny's Child - Independent Woman

    What are your top three albums for 2000? We will keep a running tally and eventually have some sort of bracket. For me it would be:
    1. Outkast - Stankonia
    2. Oasis - Standing on the Shoulder of Giants
    3. Radiohead - Kid A

    What are some of the forgotten gems from the year? What is overrated? What did you discover at a young age and what did you discover later?

    YEARS IN MUSIC • forum.chorus.fm
     
  2. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    remainder of the top 20:
    4. Elliott Smith - Figure 8
    5. At the Drive-In - Relationship of Command
    6. Modest Mouse - The Moon & Antarctica
    7. The White Stripes - De Stijl
    8. Grandaddy - The Sophtware Slump
    9. Coldplay - Parachutes
    10. The Weakerthans - Left and Leaving
    11. U2 - All You That You Can't Leave Behind
    12. Cave In - Jupiter
    13. Queens of the Stone Age - Rated R
    14. Death Cab for Cutie - We Have the Facts and We're Voting Yes
    15. Bright Eyes - Fevers and Mirrors
    16. Deftones - White Pony
    17. Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
    18. Engine Down - To Bury Within the Sound
    19. Pearl Jam - Binaural
    20. Green Day - Warning

    honorable mentions:
    Belle & Sebastian - Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant
    Cursive - Domestica
    D’Angelo - Voodoo
    Dashboard Confessional - The Swiss Army Romance
    Electric Wizard - Dopethrone
    Explosions in the Sky - How Strange, Innocence
    Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven
    Green Day - Warning
    High on Fire - The Art of Self Defense
    The Hives - Veni Vidi Vicious
    Hot Snakes - Automatic Midnight
    Isis - Celestial
    Jay Z - The Dynasty: Roc La Familia
    Killswitch Engage - Killswitch Engage
    Matchbox 20 - Mad Season
    Nelly - Country Grammar
    Pedro the Lion - Winners Never Quit
    A Perfect Circle - Mer de Noms
    Richard Ashcroft - Alone With Everybody
    A Silver Mt. Zion - He Has Left Us Alone But Shafts of Light Sometimes Grace the Corner of Our Rooms
    The Smashing Pumpkins - Machina/The Machines of God
    Songs: Ohia - The Lioness
    Sonic Youth - NYC Ghosts & Flowers
    Sunny Day Real Estate - The Rising Tide
    Warren Zevon - Life’ll Kill Ya

    stuff to check out:
    Common - Like Water for Chocolate
    Del the Funky Homosapien - Both Sides of the Brain
    Dillinger Four - Versus God
    Erykah Badu - Mama’s Gun
    Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele
    The Jayhawks - Smile
    Jurassic 5 - Quality Control
    Lamb of God - New American Gospel
    Mystikal - Let’s Get Ready
    No Doubt - Return of Saturn
    PJ Harvey - Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea
    Sleater-Kinney - All Hands on the Bad One
    Tegan and Sara - This Business of Art
    Ween - White Pepper
    Wu Tang Clan - The W
    Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out
     
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  3. soggytime

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    1. Outkast - Stankonia
    2. Radiohead - Kid A
    3. Deftones - White Pony

    And to point out how insane this year is:

    Catch 22 - Alone in the Crowd
    Less Than Jake - Borders & Boundaries
    Del the Funkee Homosapien - Both Sides of the Brain
    Deltron 3030 - Deltron 3030
    Glassjaw - Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Silence
    Elliot Smith - Figure 8
    Eve 6 - Horrorscope
    Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
    Matchbox Twenty - Mad Season
    Alkaline Trio - Maybe I'll Catch Fire
    New Found Glory - New Found Glory
    Coldplay - Parachutes
    Millencolin - Pennybridge Pioneers
    Queens of the Stone Age - Rated R
    Midtown - Save The World, Lose the Girl
    The Avalanches - Since I Left You
    Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele
    AFI - The Art of Drowning
    Big L - The Big Picture
    MxPx - The Ever Passing Moment
    Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
    Modest Mouse - The Moon & Antarctica
    Dashboard Confessional - The Swiss Army Romance
    The Movielife - This Time Next Year
    Jedi Mind Tricks - Violent By Design
    Green Day - Warning
    Death Cab For Cutie - We Have The Facts And We're Voting Yes
     
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  4. SpyKi

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    1. Radiohead - Kid A
    2. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
    3. Coldplay - Parachutes

    HM: Death Cab for Cutie - We Have the Facts, Shiina Ringo - Shouso Strip

    Surprised Parachutes beat out that Death Cab album for me but I listened to it earlier this year for the first time in a while and it's probably my favourite Coldplay album. Just lovely stuff.
     
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  5. manoverboard365 Feb 7, 2022
    (Last edited: Feb 7, 2022)
    manoverboard365

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    1. Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
    2. Coldplay - Parachutes
    3. Deftones - White Pony
    4. Dashboard Confessional - Swiss Army Romance
    5. Smashing Pumpkins - Machina
    6. Radiohead - Kid A
    7. Death Cab for Cutie - We Have the Facts
    8. Oasis - Standing on the Shoulder of Giants
    9. New Found Glory - New Found Glory
    10. Outkast - Stankonia

    Holy shit what a year.
     
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  6. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    Hell yeah, the 2000s.
     
  7. williek311

    @wearthicksocks Prestigious

    Two of the hypest tracks on albums this year



     
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  8. atlas

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    1. Deftones - White Pony
    2. D'Angelo - Voodoo
    3. QOTSA - Rated R
     
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  9. Jim

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    1. Kid A
    2. Bright eyes - Fevers & Morris
    3. MM - moon and antarctica
     
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  10. JRGComedy

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    1. Alkaline Trio - Maybe I'll Catch Fire
    • Top 3 Alk3 for me. Don't love all of Matt's songs and I think Radio is overrated, but Dan really finds his voice on this one. You've Got So Far To Go is one of my fav tracks of all time for some reason.
    2. All - Problematic
    • The (likely) final All album! Chad Price is one of my favorite vocalists because of his rasp, and the band puts in a solid final effort here. It's a bit more slight than previous All releases, but the lyrical content carries some homogenous songwriting. Carry You and Better Than That are bangers.
    3. Green Day - Warning
    • Chorus.fm: the only website on the internet that loves this album. But I do and I think it's because it is the first Green Day album I remember. Love the title track, Waiting, Macy's Day Parade, and Minority of course, but Church On Sunday is the sleeper hit for me here.
    4. Bad Religion - The New America
    • Almost through the dodgy Atlantic years! Some of BR's worst songs feature on this album and the production is very odd, but much like the All album, the lyrical content is new ground for BR, which is a feat for a band 20 years into their career. A Streetkid Named Desire is a terrible song title, but one of the only outright auto-biographical BR songs.
    5. Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
    • While Meteora was arguably more influential to me personally, I have to shout out where it all started. Kudos to Linkin Park for making aggressive music so catchy my parents let child me listen to a song with a bridge that was just "SHUT UP!" over and over.


    Honorable Mentions:
    At the Drive-In - Relationship of Command (A new discovery for me, got into them while reading Sellout.)
    Queens of the Stone Age - Rated R (Just jams)
    Pearl Jam - Binaural (The final classic Pearl Jam album)
    AC/DC - Stiff Upper Lip (Underrated AC/DC album and one of my favorites. Title track is a banger.)
    The Offspring - Conspiracy of One (Meh, but was my favorite band for a long time.)

    Stuff by bands who all went on to make better albums:
    Good Charlotte - Good Charlotte
    Superdrag - In the Valley of Dying Stars
    Marvelous 3 - ReadySexGo!
    Relient K - Relient K
    Midtown - Save the World, Lose the Girl
    New Found Glory - New Found Glory

    Stuff I should listen to:
    Outkast - Stankonia
    Deftones - White Pony
    The Avalanches - Since I Left You
    Nelly Furtado - Whoa Nelly!
     
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  11. ComedownMachine

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    Ridiculous year

    1. Radiohead - Kid A
    2. Outkast - Stankonia
    3. Modest Mouse - The Moon & Antarctica
    4. The Avalanches - Since I Left You
    5. Death Cab For Cutie - We Have The Facts
     
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  12. Gianni Feb 7, 2022
    (Last edited: Feb 8, 2022)
    Gianni

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    1. Deftones - White Pony
    2. Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
    3. Radiohead - Kid A
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    4. Our Lady Peace - Spiritual Machines
    5. Queens Of The Stone Age - Rated R
    6. Green Day - Warning
    7. Coldplay - Parachutes
    8. Oasis - Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants
    9. Pearl Jam - Binaural
    10. Glassjaw - Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Silence
    11. The Smashing Pumpkins - Machina/The Machines Of God
    12. A Perfect Circle - Mer De Noms
    13. At The Drive-In - Relationship Of Command
    14. Outkast - Stankonia
    15. Modest Mouse - The Moon & Antarctica
    16. Matchbox Twenty - Mad Season
    17. Limp Bizkit - Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water
    18. The Hives - Veni Vidi Vicious
    19. Good Charlotte - Good Charlotte
    20. Fuel - Something Like Human

    Honorable Mention:
    AFI - The Art Of Drowning
    Alkaline Trio - Maybe I'll Catch Fire
    The Avalanches - Since I Left You
    Bad Religion - The New America
    Billy Bragg & Wilco - Mermaid Avenue, Volume II
    Bloodhound Gang - Hooray For Boobies
    The Clarks - Let It Go
    Collective Soul - Blender
    The Cure - Bloodflowers
    Cursive - Cursive's Domestica
    The Dandy Warhols - Thirteen Tales From Urban Bohemia
    Death Cab For Cutie - We Have the Facts and We're Voting Yes
    Disturbed - The Sickness
    Doves - Lost Souls
    Eels - Daisies Of The Galaxy
    Elliott Smith - Figure 8
    Everclear - Songs From An American Movie: Learning How To Smile
    Everclear - Songs From An American Movie: Good Time For A Bad Attitude
    Explosions In The Sky - How Strange, Innocence
    Flogging Molly - Swagger
    Fu Manchu - King Of The Road
    Godsmack - Awake
    Lifehouse - No Name Face
    Mudvayne - L.D. 50
    MxPx - The Ever Passing Moment
    New Found Glory - New Found Glory
    No Doubt - Return Of Saturn
    The Offspring - Conspiracy Of One
    Papa Roach - Infest
    Phoenix - United
    Placebo - Black Market Music
    Rage Against The Machine - Renegades
    Rancid - Rancid (5)
    Ryan Adams - Heartbreaker
    The Sea And Cake - Oui
    The Smashing Pumpkins - Machina II/The Friends & Enemies Of Modern Music
    SR-71 - Now You See Inside
    Steely Dan - Two Against Nature
    Sum 41 - Half Hour Of Power
    Sunny Day Real Estate - The Rising Tide
    Superdrag - In the Valley of Dying Stars
    Switchfoot - Learning To Breathe
    Taproot - Gift
    3 Doors Down - The Better Life
    U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind
    Ween - White Pepper
    The White Stripes - De Stijl

    Checking out in full for First Time:
    Belle & Sebastian - Fold Your Hands Child You Walk Like A Peasant
    Bright Eyes - Fevers and Mirrors
    Cave In - Jupiter
    Common - Like Water For Chocolate
    Dashboard Confessional - The Swiss Army Romance
    Engine Down - To Bury Within The Sound
    Eve 6 - Horrorscope
    Fatboy Slim - Halfway Between The Gutter and the Stars

    Grandaddy - The Sophtware Slump
    Hot Snakes - Automatic Midnight
    Jurassic 5 - Quality Control
    Killswitch Engage - Killswitch Engage
    Kittie - Spit
    Millencolin - Pennybridge Pioneers
    Modest Mouse - Building Nothing Out of Something
    Orgy - Vapor Transmission
    Pedro The Lion - Winners Never Quit
    Sonic Youth - NYC Ghosts & Flowers
    Spoon - Love Ways EP
    The Weakerthans - Left And Leaving
    Wu Tang Clan - The W
    Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside Out
     
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  13. Pepetito

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    1. Nelly - Country Grammar
    2. NFG-NFG
    3. Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
     
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  14. HueyLewis

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    1. Millencolin - Pennybridge Pioneers
    2. Less than Jake - Borders and Boundries
    3. Goldfinger - Stomping Ground

    4. New Found Glory - New Found Glory
    5. Mighty Mighty Bosstones - Pay Attention
    6. Samian - Astray
    7. Deftones - White Pony
    8. ALL - Problematic
    9. Aquabats - Myths, Legends
    10. Junction 18 - This Vicious Cycle
     
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  15. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    1. The Weakerthans - Left and Leaving
    2. Outkast - Stankonia
    3. Dashboard Confessional - The Swiss Army Romance

    Good year
     
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  16. JM95

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    1. Deftones - White Pony
    2. Bohren & Der Club Of Gore - Sunset Mission
    3. At The Drive-In - Relationship Of Command
    White Pony's one of the greatest rock albums of all time and it's pretty much been my favourite record since I was a teenager. To this day, I find it hard to adequately describe it. Even in the Deftones back catalogue, it sounds unique; the production is a major part of it, feeling lush, warm, even a little futuristic, creating space for each aspect, yet not neutering the heaviness when it arrives. The drum sound on Digital Bath is still unbeatable. The scope of its influences, from metal to trip-hop, to ambient, to breakbeat, to new-wave, is apparent yet mostly not sounding like any of those artists or bands. The vocal performance across the record is front and centre - that you can draw a line between someone like H.R. from Bad Brains and Sade is because of Chino. And for a guy who's always been a pretty ambiguous, impressionistic lyricist, there's at times an unsettling extra dimension to this record lyrically in the push and pull of the narrator as either an antagonist or a victim. I could talk for a week about White Pony.

    I think I first heard Sunset Mission almost fifteen years ago and it's still the best background album, especially for night. A more perfect ambient-jazz noir record could not exist. Every track is great; sprawling, mesmeric, creepy, beautiful. No vocal could add anything to it.

    I really don't have an argument against Relationship Of Command being the best record of 2000, other than preference. So dynamic and so vital-sounding. No skips. It could easily sound sloppy too, with the way the guitars play off each other, and the abstract lyrics, but it comes together in a way that justifies use of the 'lightning in a bottle' cliche. There's no need to create a playlist to pump you up when an album like this exists. And, while there may be a few examples that match up to it, I don't know if there's actually a better opening trio of songs than Arcarsenal - Pattern Against User - One Armed Scissor.

    Honourable Mentions:
    Radiohead - Kid A
    Glassjaw - Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Silence
    Isis - Celestial
     
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  17. Gianni

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    :clap: All of this.

    It took me until probably 2003 to fully FULLY come around on White Pony and Deftones in general, I was a bit too young probably to appreciate all of the subtleties and nuance when I was 14ish.

    Around the Fur is awesome and all, but the level up that this band did on White Pony is astounding.

    Once "Digital Bath" clicked with me, it was all over. Truly one of the most gorgeous and crushing songs of all-time. Actually I don't typically try to choose favorite favorite songs, because it's just impossible.... but "Digital Bath" might just be it for me. I could listen to it 20 times a day and never get tired of it.
     
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  18. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    Gotta be honest, I made this list a long time ago so it probably could use some re-arranging past the first few. Kid A obviously is way too low, Warning is probably too low, etc etc. Anyway, here it is:

    1. Orgy - Vapor Transmission
    2. Fatboy Slim - Halfway Between The Gutter and the Stars
    3. Everclear - Songs from an American Movie Vol. One: Learning How to Smile
    4. Eve 6 - Horrorscope
    5. Matchbox Twenty - Mad Season
    6. Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
    7. Good Charlotte - Good Charlotte
    8. Phoenix - United
    9. The Offspring - Conspiracy of One
    10. Mest - Wasting Time
    11. Everclear - Songs from an American Movie Vol. Two: Good Time For A Bad Attitude
    12. Green Day - Warning
    13. Bowling For Soup - Let's Do It for Johnny!!
    14. Sum 41 - Half Hour of Power
    15. Nine Days - The Madding Crowd
    16. Radiohead - Kid A
    17. No Doubt - Return of Saturn
    18. SR-71 - Now You See Inside
    19. Midtown - Save the World, Lose the Girl
    20. Marvelous 3 - ReadySexGo
     
  19. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    yeah Outkast should be somewhere on my list also
     
  20. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    2000 mix. Track 3 should be Marvelous 3 - Get Over, but I guess that album isnt on spotify so here we are...

     
  21. JulieLynn

    Karma is the Guy On The Chiefs Supporter

    I am going to have to look through my giant book of CDs to make my list as I was 16 and was buying albums once a week at Newbury Comics. Holy shit how was this 22 years ago!?!?!
     
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  22. Gianni

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    Dammit forgot about all of these somehow! Edits made. I haven't heard the name SR-71 probably SINCE high school.

    And that Phoenix record has some great songs, I didn't know it existed until like 2010 though haha.
     
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  23. JulieLynn

    Karma is the Guy On The Chiefs Supporter

    SoulDecision "Faded" was/is my fucking Jammmmmmmm.
     
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  24. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    truly amazing song. A big winner for karaoke as well, as long as you can nail the rap section haha
     
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  25. George Feb 7, 2022
    (Last edited: Feb 7, 2022)
    George

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    1. Idlewild - 100 Broken Windows
    2. Godspeed You Black Emperor! - Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven
    3. Elliott Smith - Figure 8

    Idelwild are a very underrated band, coming in just at the tail end of Brit-pop, but bringing a bit of a louder more aggressive sound to it, clearly indebted to punk music, as well as big anthemic arena rock stuff like U2. This is their second album, and finds them in the perfect middle ground between the scrappy stuff on their debut, and the more polished poppier stuff on their coming records. Well worth a listen if you don't know the name, one of my favourite bands.

    GYBE's big double album, 90 minutes long with just four tracks is one of my favourite post-rock albums. Not quite as bleak as their debut album, with songs following a more traditional post-rock route of slow build up to crescendo, but full of experimentation, and field recordings or samples. Each of the individual tracks are so long and so well constructed, that even if I don't have time for the whole record, I'll regularly just chuck on one track, and it'll work just as well.

    Figure 8 is the final Elliott Smith album, and just like those that preceded it, it's an astoundingly beautiful and simple collection of songs written with such disarming charm and ease, that it makes it look like the easiest thing in the world.

    Honourable mentions;

    Outkast - Stankonia: I don't listen to the whole thing very often, but I'm always listening to B.O.B, what a song that is.

    Green Day - Warning: Was the consensus "underrated" Green Day album, to the point where it truly can't be underrated anymore. Some of their best songwriting, with a bit of a broader pop-rock sound, losing some of the brash punk sound (though Minority is one of their best songs in that style).

    Millencolin - Pennybridge Pioneers: Like almost everyone, I found Millencolin through Tony Hawks and "No Cigar", which is an all time great melodic punk track, and threatens to overpower and outshine what is a very good record in it's own right, with one massive high point.

    Isis - Celestial: The now unfortunately named Isis' debut record, a fantastic bit of post-metal inventiveness, and they'd go from strength to strength in the coming years.

    Bright Eyes - Fevers and Mirrors: A bit overwrought, and Conor hadn't quite worked out how best to use his (frequently wince inducing) voice, but there's some really great bits of emo-folky songwriting here. He'd go onto to do much better pretty quickly, but this is the earliest Bright Eyes record that's worth listening to, IMO.

    At The Drive In - Relationship of Command: A brilliantly loud and destructive album that perfectly blends the bands disparate influences into a thrilling mix. The fact that after they split, half the band made perfunctory and dull post-hardcore music as Sparta, and the other half made wild and completely messy, frequently indulgent prog music as The Mars Volta is very telling. Much better combined than apart.
     
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