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1995 in music. • Page 4

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by phaynes12, Jan 3, 2022.

  1. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    What!
     
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  2. williek311

    @wearthicksocks Prestigious

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  3. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    I only got deeper into Smashing Pumpkins somewhat recently but the first few records are all great
     
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  4. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    it’s no slight to the pumpkins. mc is a very good record, with some fat like any double album, that just also happens to be the band’s third best album. WTSMG is a perfect album lol
     
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  5. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    I've listened up through both Machina albums and enjoyed everything to varying degrees, at some point I gotta keep going but their discography is so dense and sprawling
     
  6. Phil507

    Resident NYC snob Supporter

    I was a pretty active music listener in 1995 so here are some brief thoughts both about the albums as well as some context regarding perception at the time in case anyone is curious:

    SMASHING PUMPKINS - Mellon Collie & The Infinite Sadness

    I know opinions will vary but as someone obsessed with this band in the mid-90's this was a monumental achievement by Billy Corgan in terms of his prolific songwriting. One of the rare double albums that justifies it's length, the band tries out many different styles while still keeping a rooted foot in big muff-based alternative rock distortion jams. Future double albums from other bands of this era like RHCP and Foo Fighters could never provide the type of diversity this record has. Additionally, it was a huge commercial success spinning off multiple hits and conquering the VMA's that year. I'd like to say that the alt-rock mania officially ended the night SP took home all these awards in Sep of 1996 as pop/hip-hop began to dominate in 1997.

    OASIS - (What's The Story) Morning Glory?

    Seems like this album is the most loved around here so far and, while I will conceed that it's great, I was around for the Gallagher brothers megalomania in the mid-90's which somewhat affected how I processed this at the time. I still prefer this album to Definitely Maybe due to Noel dipping his toe into ballad territory more often. The deluxe version with all the B-sides is crucial as many of the songs are just as excellent as the album tracks.

    RADIOHEAD - The Bends

    Definitely the last time anyone associated Radiohead with Britpop but, as others have pointed out, these are there best traditional songs. At the time, Radiohead were still seen as just another UK import along with the likes of Blur, Suede, etc. in America and many people still assumed they wouldn't break big in the States. One interesting piece of trivia around this album is that while it had a somewhat lukewarm reception at modern rock radio (aside from some of the cooler stations like KROQ and Live 105), MTV played a big hand in featuring their videos which helped it go gold.

    GREEN DAY - Insomniac

    Green Day fatigue was real in the summer of 1995, even after they released the excellent "J.A.R" as a stopgap. Insomniac's harsher tone pretty much shed off the more mainstream fans as they migrated towards more pop-friendly albums like Alanis Morisette, Bush and Live. For people with a too-cool-for-school attitude at the time, this album wasn't probably even on their register as they were probably listening to Rancid and Pennywise. I still think it's a great alternative to Dookie and "Stuart and the Ave" is still one of my favorite Green Day rippers.

    311 - 311

    Didn't break big until the next year but this album is 311 at their most concise and hooky. Some of the raps are a little dated but, interestingly enough, I think this album still sounds fairly fresh over 25 years later and they are one of the few rap-rock hybrids who have been able to agre gracefully.

    ALANIS MORSIETTE - Jagged Little Pill

    There's obviously no denying the influence of this album and the singles are definitely still spot on. Some of the album tracks are a little "Meh" to me and I can't claim to have spent a ton of time with in '95-96 compared to other releases but a few recent revisits have confirmed that it's stood the test of time. "Right Through You" should have definitely been a 6th single if they went down that route.

    NO DOUBT - Tragic Kingdom

    Like other big releases at the time (Sixteen Stone, Throwing Copper, Jagged Little Pill) there seems to be a BIG gap in quality between the singles and the album cuts (which is still fine as half this record contains singles). The big hits are great and there's nothing downright BAD on this album but I can't claim it's stacked front-to-back (Rock Steady is actually my preferable album).

    RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS - One Hot Minute

    This is the one that almost every RHCP hardcore fan will claim is under-rated which, at this point, might mean it's slightly over-rated. I actually don't think Dave Navarro was as strange of a fit as many people claimed he was at the time. If anything, One Hot Minute is a little long without many new ideas to be introduced but still solid. "Tearjerker" is a lovely deep cut btw.

    GOO GOO DOLLS - A Boy Named Goo

    One of the interesting tricks in modern rock is when a band hits big with a ballad or sound that isn't really reminiscent of their overall sound (like what Sugar Ray did in 1997). Goo Goo Dolls had always had a few acoustic songs but "Name" was EVERYWHERE in late 95-96. The rest of the album is also great, as it's the last time the band really embraced their midwest punk influences before diving into Lite-FM Pop/Rock on their next album.

    GARBAGE - Garbage

    There was a lot of "women in alt-rock" chatter in 1995 which would constantly lump Garbage in with No Doubt, Alanis Morisette and others. The reality was Garbage was a totally different beast and consisted of multiple studio whiz's who needed a personality to front their project. I will die on this hill saying that Garbage's debut is downright a much better overall listen than either Alanis or No Doubt but, since it's 2021, there's really no need to pit female acts against each other like the press loved doing in 1995.

    FOO FIGHTERS - Foo Fighters

    For those too young to be there, before Foo Fighters became a mainstay on the arena/stadium circuit, Dave Grohl had to continuously prove himself to be able to live outside the shadow of Nirvana. When this album was released, a microscope was taken to every lyric in order to see how he was grappling with Kurt's suicide and Courtney Love's antics (even though 9 of these 12 songs were written before Kurt died). This isn't my favorite Foo album but it's definitely in the top 3 and it's the one and only time Grohl doesn't seem that concerned with writing FM radio staples.

    ALICE IN CHAINS - Alice In Chains

    Grunge was on its last leg in 1995 with Nirvana being out of commission and Pearl Jam making it difficult for fans to see them. This album is....interesting. A lot of plodding songs due to the fact that Layne contributed to more of the songwriting. Definitely not better than Dirt or Facelift but still an essential entry in their catalog.

    RANCID - ...And Out Came The Wolves

    With Green Day and The Offspring leading the charge, this album continued punk's dominance in the mainstream. Still a killer record which unfolds at a break-neck pace. I don't usually reach for Rancid because I find their catalog a little same-y sounding but this record definitely contains their best songs.

    EVERCLEAR - Sparkle And Fade

    Before Art Alexakis led Everclear firmly into pop/rock territory, this album was a neat little combination of their "cow-punk" genre. It's one of these rare records that can sound both clean and messy at the same time. At 14 songs, there are a few duds but overall holds up pretty well.

    SILVERCHAIR - Frogstomp

    I probably loved this album because I was younger than Silverchair at the time. Even if some of the lyrics are clunky, a lot of these riffs still rule and for a band of 15-16 year olds, it's amazing how well developed they were at the time. Daniel Johns would prove himself to be an exceptional songwriter in his later years but this was a great record to inspire young kids to form their own grunge bands.

    Other honorable mentions that I got into later as I got older: Hum, Blur, The Rentals and Sunny Day Real Estate
     
  7. The Lucky Moose

    I'm Emotional, I Hug the Block Prestigious

    Even the rap fans here are sleeping on too many albums tbh I was counting on you :crylaugh:
     
  8. Gianni

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    AGREED.

    I don't think that it necessarily outstays its welcome like some say, because that was truly the point for Billy at the time.... BUT I do 100% agree that I THINK I like it better than I really do.
     
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  9. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    This goes back to when I was a kid, too. I was more fascinated by the mystique of the album than I was by (many of) the actual songs. But also, cutting it down to a single LP would diminish its brilliance.
     
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  10. Gianni

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    I also know it's by far their worst album, but considering the site that we are on I am somewhat shocked I haven't seen ONE mention of Cheshire Cat.
     
  11. JM95

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    I just prefer the sound of Billy's vocals on the first two albums. It's a warmer vocal production than Mellon Collie.
     
  12. The Lucky Moose

    I'm Emotional, I Hug the Block Prestigious

    That Big L album though guys
     
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  13. The Lucky Moose Jan 5, 2022
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    The Lucky Moose

    I'm Emotional, I Hug the Block Prestigious

    I'm not a RHCP hater (musically) like some but I also think they are really a singles band
     
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  14. Phil507

    Resident NYC snob Supporter

    I will say that the back half of disc 2 with stuff like Lily and We Only Come Out At Night isn’t all that essential. They could have swapped in a few choice cuts from the b-sides on the Aeropoane Flies High box set.
     
  15. Phil507

    Resident NYC snob Supporter

    I’m not as big of a Blink stan as the majority on this site so take that as you will but, honestly, I find the majority of Cheshire Cat unlistenable and would only recommend it to new fans who want to uncover the whole history after exhausting all the other records.
     
  16. Surfwax

    bring on the major leagues Supporter

    Damn Return of the Rentals probably wouldn’t have cracked my list, but I totally forgot about it. Great record.
     
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  17. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    damn, same
     
  18. Gianni

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    agreed - agh SO many great cuts on that box set.
     
  19. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    I don't think we're going to have an RHCP winner. Blood Sugar Sex Magik probably would have been the most likely. Only other one with a shot of appearing on any/many lists is probably Californication, and no way that beats out Clarity or Enema for '99.
     
  20. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    definitely think californiacation or by the way can win
     
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  21. SpyKi

    You must fix your heart Supporter

    Yeah I'd be surprised if they won a year but since I don't like them I haven't really been in any threads about them so I wouldn't know if there's a big fanbase on here. Can't recall ever really seeing anyone mention them.
     
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  22. Gianni Jan 5, 2022
    (Last edited: Jan 5, 2022)
    Gianni

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    1. Oasis - (What's The Story) Morning Glory?
    2. The Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie & The Infinite Sadness
    3. 311 - 311 (Blue Album)
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    4. Foo Fighters - Foo Fighters
    5. Radiohead - The Bends
    6. Deftones - Adrenaline
    7. Red Hot Chili Peppers - One Hot Minute
    8. Green Day - Insomniac
    9. Our Lady Peace - Naveed
    10. Wilco - A.M.
    11. Guided By Voices - Alien Lanes
    12. No Doubt - Tragic Kingdom
    13. Alice In Chains - Alice In Chains
    14. Clutch - Clutch
    15. Everclear - Sparkle And Fade
    16. Goo Goo Dolls - A Boy Named Goo
    17. Collective Soul - Collective Soul
    18. Rancid - ...And Out Come The Wolves
    19. Silverchair - Frogstomp
    20. Alanis Morissette - Jagged Little Pill

    Honorable Mention:
    Ben Harper - Fight For Your Mind
    Better Than Ezra - Deluxe
    Blink 182 - Cheshire Cat
    Blur - The Great Escape
    Chavez - Gone Glimmering
    David Bowie - Outside
    Elliott Smith - Elliott Smith
    Filter - Short Bus
    Fugazi - Red Medicine
    Fu Manchu - Daredevil
    Garbage - Garbage
    Hum - You'd Prefer An Astronaut
    Jawbreaker - Dear You
    Kyuss - ...And The Circus Leaves Town
    Matthew Sweet - 100% Fun
    MxPx - Teenage Politics
    Neil Young - Mirror Ball
    Pavement - Wowee Zowee
    Pearl Jam - Merkin Ball (EP)
    The Presidents of the United States of America - The Presidents of the United States of America
    Pulp - Different Class
    Quicksand - Manic Compression
    The Rentals - Return of the Rentals
    Rocket From The Crypt - Scream Dracula Scream
    The Roots - Do You Want More?!!!??!
    Spacehog - Resident Alien
    Sunny Day Real Estate - LP2
    Superchunk - Here's Where The Strings Come In
    Superdrag - The Fabulous 8-Track Sound of Superdrag
    Supergrass - I Should Coco
    Tears For Fears - Raoul and the Kings of Spain
    Teenage Fanclub - Grand Prix
    Toad The Wet Sprocket - In Light Syrup
    White Zombie - Astro Creep: 2000 Songs....
    Yo La Tengo - Electr-o-pura

    Checking Out in Full for the first time:
    The Apples In Stereo - Fun Trick Noisemaker
    Archers of Loaf - Vee Vee
    Ben Folds Five - Ben Folds Five
    Bjork - Post
    Blind Melon - Soup
    Bruce Springsteen - The Ghost of Tom Joad
    Dishwalla - Pet Your Friends
    Dog's Eye View - Happy Nowhere
    Face To Face - Big Choice
    Faith No More - King For A Day, Fool For A Lifetime
    The Flaming Lips - Clouds Taste Metallic
    Lifetime - Hello Bastards
    Mad Season - Above
    Pennywise - About Time
    Primus - Tales From the Punchbowl
    Sonic Youth - Washing Machine
    Slowdive - Pygmalion
    Son Volt - Trace
    Texas Is The Reason - Texas Is The Reason
    Tricky - Maxinquaye
    The Verve - A Northern Soul
     
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  23. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    Yeah, I've never gotten the sense that there were a ton of fans around here. Definitely not enough to get them over "scene" classics like the aforementioned for '99, or Tell All Your Friends for 2002.
     
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  24. Gianni

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    RHCP fan here and I'll take Clarity over Californication 365 days out of the year.
     
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  25. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    i was joking about smashing pumpkins but if taking back sunday wins a year i’ll be mad online. i’ll abide jimmy eat world but i cannot abide that lol.
     
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