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1966 in music. • Page 2

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by phaynes12, May 17, 2021.

  1. Gianni

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    Ugh am I crazy - is this record not on Spotify? Guess I can YouTube it
     
  2. Craig Manning

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    1. Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde
    2. The Beatles - Revolver
    3. The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds

    Honestly, it's a coin toss on the top two. Revolver is monumental and revolutionary: you can hear the boundaries of what pop music can be simply evaporating on some of those songs. But Blonde on Blonde is arguably the greatest collection of songs ever from arguably the greatest songwriter ever, and it's the one I'm feeling just a tad more today.

    Pet Sounds trails behind the other two a bit, for me, but that's no slight. Its highlights are some of the best pop songs ever. (Also, the Pet Sounds bit is my favorite running gag on the Chorus.fm boards.)
     
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  3. George

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    Listened to The Supremes other record from 1966, The Supremes A’ Go-Go.

    I knew a handful of these songs already, but don’t think I’d heard this album from them. They were just effortlessly great, consistent and just the easiest music to listen to. Beautiful voices and arrangements, with perfect production for them. Find it hard to imagine them doing anything ever that wasn’t, at absolute worst, a pleasant listen.

    Didn’t look at the track list before I hit play, so I had a massive grin as soon as I heard the first few notes of I Can’t Help Myself (Sugar Pie Honey Bunch) play.

    A very safe choice for my first new listen from 1966, but I loved this.
     
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  4. Maverick May 18, 2021
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    1966 in Music

    Best Albums
    1. Pet Sounds - The Beach Boys
    2. Revolver - The Beatles
    3. Fresh Cream - Cream

    Best Songs
    Good Vibrations - The Beach Boys
    You Can't Hurry Love - The Supremes
    Tomorrow Never Knows - The Beatles
    Eleanor Rigby - The Beatles
    Sloop John B - The Beach Boys
    Monday, Monday - The Mamas & The Papas
    Wouldn't It Be Nice - The Beach Boys
    Reach Out, I'll Be There - Four Tops
    I Feel Free - Cream
    You're Gonna Miss Me - The 13th Floor Elevators
    Gimme Some Lovin' - The Spencer Davis Group
    Paperback Writer - The Beatles
    God Only Knows - The Beach Boys
    Along Comes Mary - The Association
    Hazy Shade Of Winter - Simon & Garfunkel
    Armee Guineenne - Bembeya Jazz National
    Eight Miles High - The Byrds
    Summer In The City - The Lovin' Spoonful
    You Keep Me Hangin' On - The Supremes
    We Ain't Got Nothin' Yet - The Blue Magoos
    Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down) - Nancy Sinatra
    Making Time - The Creation
    Bus Stop - The Hollies
    Shapes Of Things - The Yardbirds
    These Boots Are Made For Walking - Nancy Sinatra
    96 Tears - ? & The Mysterians
    I'm A Believer - The Monkees
    Last Train To Clarksville - The Monkees
    Sugar Town - Nancy Sinatra
    Get Ready - The Temptations
    River Deep, Mountain High - Ike & Tina Turner
    Mercy, Mercy, Mercy - Cannonball Adderley
    Psychotic Reaction - Count Five
    Monk Time! - The Monks
    Sunshine Superman - Donovan
    Good Lovin' - The Young Rascals
    Rainy Woman #12 & 35 - Bob Dylan
    Season Of The Witch - Donovan
    Sunday Morning - The Velvet Underground
    Wild Thing - The Troggs
    Knock On Wood - Eddie Floyd

    Honorable Mention
    The Good, The Bad & The Ugly (Score) - Ennio Morricone
     
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  5. Gianni

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    I understand that it comes down to a matter of preference in style/bias ... but is there a song on Blonde on Blonde that can make a serious solid argument for being better than “Here, There, And Everywhere”?

    I say this as someone that has heard Revolver probably 100+ times and Blonde on Blonde maybe 5 times.
     
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  6. stars143

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    I looked at the track listing for Blonde On Blonde and realized I recognize zero of the tracks. And I’ve listened to it front to back at one point in my life.

    Not a Dylan hater, he just isn’t for me. The tracks I do like from him are on other albums.
     
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  7. Gianni

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    yeah I think that’s a good take - it’s fair to say he’s an acquired taste and The Beatles are more “immediate”.
     
  8. Craig Manning

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    IMO, very few songs are better than “Visions of Johanna” or “Just Like a Woman.”
     
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  9. Gianni

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    This is where to me, it’s beautiful that music is subjective. Everyone can take away their own experience from hearing a song. I’m listening to both of these as I type this. And I totally enjoy it, respect it, and even hear melody in Dylan’s voice (which is more than you’d an say for much of his later work). In fact, my boy Adam G from War on Drugs is clearly aping this vocal style in many ways, and I LOVE me some WOD.

    But overall I just don’t get the same FEELING I get when I hear songs from Revolver. They don’t hit me the same way. I know a lot of that is nostalgia and it’s entirely subjective. I also think it’s fair to say that The Beatles are easily digestible for the masses, and Dylan is at least partly revered by critics because many of the masses don’t ‘get’ him.

    Any way I look at it, it’s all beautiful music and we are splitting hairs here. I’m thankful for all of it.
     
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  10. Gianni

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    Just Like A Woman is gorgeous. I love the structure of it. A lot of Dylan songs just sort of repeat verse verse verse another verse. This one changes it up more.
     
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  11. Gianni May 18, 2021
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    Gianni

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    1. The Beatles - Revolver
    2. The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
    3. Bob Dylan - Blonde On Blonde

    Honorable Mention (alphabetical order):
    The Animals - Animalization
    Buffalo Springfield - Buffalo Springfield
    The Byrds - Fifth Dimension
    Cream - Fresh Cream
    Donovan - Sunshine Superman
    The Kinks - Face To Face
    Love - Da Capo
    The Mamas & The Papas - If You Can Believe Your Eyes & Ears
    The Mamas & The Papas - S/T
    The Monkees - S/T
    The Rolling Stones - Aftermath
    Simon & Garfunkel - Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, & Thyme
    Simon & Garfunkel - Sounds of Silence
    The Sonics - The Sonics Boom
    The Who - A Quick One
    The Yardbirds - Roger The Engineer
    The Young Rascals - S/T

    Listening This Week:
    The Animals - Animalism
    The Association - And Then...Along Comes
    13th Floor Elevators - The Psychedlic Sounds Of...
    The Lovin' Spoonful - Hums of The Lovin' Spoonful
    The Mothers Of Invention - Freak Out!
    Otis Redding - Dictionary Of Soul
    Sammy Davis, Jr. - Sammy Davis, Jr. Sings and Laurindo Almeida Plays
    The Supremes - I Hear A Symphony
    Them - Them Again
    The Troggs - From Nowhere

    Singles:
    The Beatles -"Paperback Writer"
    The Beatles - "Rain" (easily one of the most underrated Beatles songs)
    The Beach Boys - "Good Vibrations"

    a lot more I'm forgetting.... It's already getting difficult to take in a year in a week hahaha. Work getting in the way!
     
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  12. Craig Manning

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    See, the thing with Dylan is that you almost have to commit yourself to an extremely focused listen (or 50!) to really get to the bottom of what makes him so spectacular. Blonde on Blonde is a very musically accomplished record, with (IMO) a lot of great melodies, but it's his lyrical work that makes those songs some of the best ever written. Like, just take a read through "Visions of Johanna." It's so staggering and so unique, with this enormous depth of emotion and scene setting that is so rare in songwriting. "Just Like a Woman" is a little bit different, because I genuinely think it's a spectacular pop song. But "Johanna" and "Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands" and a few other songs on there are just so layered and interesting. I've heard that record a lot of times and still feel like I find something new in the lyrics every time.

    And that's no slight at all to The Beatles, to Revolver, or to "Here, There and Everywhere," which is absolutely one of the most gorgeous songs of all time. If I had to pick one favorite song from The Beatles' or Dylan's remarkable 65-66 runs, it would probably be "In My Life."

    Funny story: I first heard "Just Like a Woman" from a Something Corporate cover, and it remains amazing to me how well that song could become a 2000s emo-pop anthem. Like I said, I think it's just a great pop song.
     
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  13. phaynes12

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    plenty! visions of johanna and temporary like achilles come to mind immediately

    they appeal to different parts of music though. production mastery vs. lyrical/songwriting mastery

    though if I'm being honest, I don't think here there everywhere would be a top 5 song for me off revolver
     
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  14. phaynes12

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    jeff buckley's cover of just like a woman is unreal
     
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  15. Gianni May 18, 2021
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    Gianni

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    Yes! Seriously I will admit a massive flaw in my music fandom - to you and @Craig Manning ‘s points, I never put much weight on lyrics. So I can understand completely how that impacts or lessens my appreciation of Dylan’s craft. I would love to have the time to give Blonde on Blonde 50 listens or more. I’m sure in my lifetime I will but damn!
     
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  16. Gianni

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    So well said, man- I will make a point to do a read-along with lyrics this week to as much of the album as possible, or at least these songs we’ve been discussing. It’s actually one of my favorite things to do with new songs as it has irked me (like I mentioned) that intrinsically I don’t put as much importance on lyrics in music.
     
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  17. phaynes12

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    also i'd rather take robbie robertson's playing that album over anything from, honestly, any beatles album. no disrespect.
     
  18. Gianni

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    always a curiosity for me and I haven’t read or watched anything that deep dives into Dylan’s records or anything, so forgive me if I sound naive. But The credits for Blonde on Blonde list 6 guitarists (besides Dylan himself) that contribute to the record, so I always struggle with knowing who did what. It even goes as far to say as :

    “The personnel involved in making Blonde on Blonde is subject to some discrepancy.”

    Doesn’t take away from the brilliance necessarily - just a curiosity - do you actually know which guitar parts are Robertson’s ? Can you kind of just TELL from his style?

    Again my takeaway is I just need to listen more. LOL
     
  19. Gianni

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    Next let’s talk for a hot second about Harrison crushing it with TAXMAN.
     
  20. phaynes12

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    if the lead on "I want you" isn't robertson, I don't know anything
     
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  21. Meerkat

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    “Taxman” is one of those songs that rarely comes to mind for me but whenever I listen to it I’m all in. Great opener
     
  22. phaynes12

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    it's the best on the album imo
     
  23. Gianni

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    I might have to do one of those rankings of every song on the album like we do in the Weezer threads now for Revolver.
     
  24. Gianni

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    Okay you got me on that one - incredible song and certainly Robertson.
     
  25. Gianni

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    I’m just a sucker for 3 minute pop songs
     
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