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Billie Joe Armstrong’s Life in 15 Songs

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  1. Melody Bot

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    Billie Joe Armstrong, talking to Rolling Stone about “Minority:”


    After “Time of Your Life,” I started getting into playing more acoustic guitar, and I really wanted to have more for Warning. And there was also a lot of kind of bad pop punk that was starting to happen, and I wanted to go against that genre. This felt like the next step. I had been getting into listening to more of the Kinks and the Who, who found a lot of power in an acoustic song, and used the guitar almost like a drum. “Pinball Wizard” is so percussive. I wrote this right before the election between George Bush and Al Gore. I started feeling the political wheels starting to turn toward conservatism a little bit. I think that song is sort of about declaring that you’re stepping out of the line, you’re not part of the sheep, and trying to find your own individualism. It felt like we were diving into something that was more conceptual for sure.

    I’d like to go back and rerecord that album. It was right when Pro Tools started happening. I want to go back and just do everything more live, because I think “Minority” live is a lot better than it came out on the album. But that’s just one of those things that you think about too much.

    Warning is still my favorite Green Day album.

     
  2. alkalinexandy

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    I love Warning as it is, but it would definitely be cool to hear how they would record some of those songs differently today. I'd buy that, for sure.
     
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  3. Sean Murphy

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    Warning absolutely is my favorite green day album
     
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  4. Fucking Dustin

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    Warning is my fav as well
     
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  5. waterloobeam

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    Macy's Day Parade is probably my favorite green day track
     
  6. Zilla

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    I wouldn't want them to touch "Warning." The production is fine as it is. I think it's funny that he mentions Pro Tools was right after it because it feels like the band's sound got way more of a sheen to it after that and sometimes not in a good way.
     
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  7. AsfAstAswegofar

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    Dude hell yeah, Warning is the best. I love Castaway and the song that all my green day fan friends hate, Misery.
     
  8. Zilla

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    Scrolling through Spotify to listen to these songs, I noticed the bootleg of Green Day Unplugged (Not really MTV Unplugged, just some acoustic live shows) is up to stream. The sound quality is absolutely terrible. I'm surprised it hasn't been taken down.
     
  9. IAmMikeWhite

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    "And there was also a lot of kind of bad pop punk that was starting to happen, and I wanted to go against that genre."

    In 2000...he HAS to be talk about blink, right?
     
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  10. Zilla

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    I know they were kind of feuding with Blink back then (which was squashed with Pop Disaster Tour), but I think he might be talking about either the Drive-Thru bands or maybe conflating it with the rise of Good Charlotte and A Simple Plan, even thought that was years later.
     
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  11. IAmMikeWhite

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    You're probably right. But still... I'm not sure it was ever squashed. Everything I've ever read about the Pop Disaster tour suggests that GD wanted to blow blink out of the water every night (and succeeded). They kinda "won" that battle, so it probably feels less adversarial than it was back then. But if he's writing "Minority" in '99 or '00, he's either talking about blink or the Offspring (and I'm SURE he's not talking about the latter.)

    Who knows? It's fun to speculate.
     
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  12. IAmMikeWhite

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    Also...Warning is my favorite Green Day record by a longshot...er...I mean...by a wide margin.
     
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  13. Zilla

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    Good point. Looking back, The Offspring should have been their target.
     
  14. DooDooBird

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    Misery is such a bad song. That alone disqualifies Warning from being their best album.
     
  15. Zilla

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    "Misery" rules
     
  16. Nah it’s definitely DTR, Simple Plan, Sum 41, and Good Charlotte and the rise of the those pop punk bands.
     
  17. fredwordsmith

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    The way songs on Warning sound when performed live is how I would have wanted it. In many ways I still want to hear them in that style. But that record is such a beautiful weird pivot and has held up better every year.
     
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  18. Zilla

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    It’s crazy that they never tried to go back to that more acoustic-based sound. It feel weirdly intimate compared to the arena rock that followed.
     
  19. tdlyon

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    This was such a cool read. And AI will always be my favorite album by them but I think Warning is probably in second for me, just fantastic all the way through
     
  20. kelseyleigh

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    I haven't listened to Warning in such a long time but I loved the record when it came out. Definitely will be re-exploring this afternoon.
     
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  21. kelseyleigh

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    Defnitely holds up.
     
  22. kiguel182

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    Great article with tons of cool insight.

    Warning is a great record. Love Waiting.

    He is definetly talking about Blink since Warning is from 2000, right after Blink blew up. It was the year ATSM peaked.
     
  23. AsfAstAswegofar

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    I feel like we're going to get into that age old pop punk debate. Blink vs Green Day. lol
     
  24. Leftandleaving

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    waiting is probably my fav Green Day song
     
  25. benschuyler

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    For as much as I enjoy that entire record, it's embarrassingly pretentious to call out the pop-punk coming out during that time "bad."